IAR 80, dedicated section

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Radu

Vintage IAR Wulf 180...
->35cm wingspan
-massive aluminium propeller







This post has been edited by seeker on November 26, 2012 11:05 am

Makes you wonder, what's the story of this ? Where is it coming from and how old is it ? Is it from the war years?

This post has been edited by lancer21 on February 12, 2012 10:53 pm

It is original ww2 era for desk display. I also have the metal arm but i must build a console.

If that is the case, what if , just what if , what we're actually looking at is not badly made IAR-80ish model, but actually, an unknown project from IAR for an improvement / succesor to the 80! ?

If this model is indeed exactly what it looks like , and not a badly made 80, it "feels" like it's based on the 80 , the wings are similar and the tail surfaces are similar ( the rudder seem to be a tad bigger than the IAR-80 one , but it's the same general configuration -bigger , because of the more powerful engine and wide blade propeller?)

The rear fuselage looks like it's redesigned without the long fairing behind the canopy , while the canopy itself is very FWish indeed.

Finally these seems to be something like an intake right behind the engine between the ( suposedly) landing gear wheels.

Engine ? BMW-801? G-R14R ? IAR-1500? Who knows.

Well i know i'm probably seeing /inventing things where they arent, but what if ...just what if ?

Anyway this imho will be a great base for a what-if / fantasy IAR fighter ( much better and "realistic" than that IAR-88 thingie made a while back)

Speaking of IAR-80 projects , does anyone remember the Modelism 1989 article stating that in 1939 before the aircraft was launched into production there was a project for a Jumo-211D powered IAR-80, more streamlined and with a similar canopy to P-51D and P-47D (bubble). Where did the authors got that info ? How much truth is in it ?

Many thanks.

This post has been edited by lancer21 on February 13, 2012 08:35 pm

sorry for the late response LANCER...this is the canopy seen from above.

Many thanks for the picture, i apreciate your reply Seeker.
What are the (seemingly) engine cowling pieces from, btw?

This post has been edited by lancer21 on February 28, 2012 10:25 pm

body made out from wood, propeller aluminium.

My understanding is that no original I.A.R. 80 exist today, and what we had near Baneasa airport, or what we have now in the aviation museum sponsored by the army, are 1 : 1 scale models made from scratch.
All I need is 4 words:
"Yes, you are right" (meaning no IAR 80 original cockpit and fuselage with engine in it exist today)
or
"No, you are wrong."

Thank you.

"Survivors
IAR-80 replicaAfter the Soviet occupation of Romania, within five years all remaining IAR 80s were scrapped and replaced with Soviet fighters. None of them is known to survive. An IAR 80 post war rebuilt after the fall of Communism and painted in its 1941–1944 original colors was shown at the Mihail Kogălniceanu airshow, near Constanţa. An IAR 80 can be found at the National Military Museum in Bucharest, which is a rebuild from IAR 80DC two-seat trainer parts."
Thank you, Wikipedia !

This post has been edited by Florin on August 27, 2012 12:28 am

As usual, Wikipedia is not accurate.

That particular exhibit is also a full scale replica, not a rebuild, with a few original components included in it.

Gen. Dénes

Denes is right, the airframe in the Military Museum is a full-scale replica built in Brasov in the late-eighties. Some parts are original (engine parts, instruments, etc) so it is lilkely that a pressure gauge or spark plug cable was used on a "real" I.A.R.80
Both full-size replicas are inaccurate and neither feature correct colours or markings.
Radu

Dénes,I have never seen inaccurate details given by wikipedia. My opinion is wikipedia do not make mistakes. Dénes, do you have irrefutable and undeniable proofs that wikipedia is inaccurate.

Anyway I found out a link which contains an ebook about IAR 80. I have post the link below. There is a high probability it can contain large amount of details about IAR 80.
I have not download the ebook.

http://depositfiles.com/files/t2holw3wf

This post has been edited by warunasanjaya2727 on August 31, 2012 05:46 pm

Oh, the innocence! My friend, please don't feel offended by what I'm going to tell you, but you are so wrong! Everybody can make an account (free of charge) on Wikipedia, and thus everyone with an account can create and modify pages. If the above-mentioned modificatins are too "flagrant", they will eventually be undone, but the fact that Wikipedia can be altered by anyone with a Net connection is undeniable!
On topic, now: download the book, look through it and then write some other thins in here!
Also, regardless of Wikipedia, there are on this forum a couple of guys with real, solid knowledge on the matter (not me, of course!); you could listen to their oppinions...

This post has been edited by MMM on August 31, 2012 06:31 pm

Original WW2 cigarette ashtray RRAF.