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Carol I |
Posted: January 17, 2004 11:03 am
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing it. Do you know if the "Nicholas II" name of the regiment changed after the Russian revolution of 1917. |
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Cuza |
Posted: January 17, 2004 02:29 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 165 Joined: December 14, 2003 |
I have no source, but I would bet on it! |
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Cuza |
Posted: January 17, 2004 05:03 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 165 Joined: December 14, 2003 |
[quote="Cuza"][quote][quote]I do show a 7th Rosiori Nich II cavalry reg badge listed in my database-I will try to find it this weekend.[/quote]
Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing it.[/quote] Identification (as told to me) from left to right: 5th Rosiori (w/unknown), 9th Hunter's Guard (Alex I Serbia), 7th Rosiori Nicholas II Calvary, Polish badge w/Carol II as honorary commander. ' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> |
Cuza |
Posted: January 17, 2004 05:06 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 165 Joined: December 14, 2003 |
I believe there to be literally hundreds of regimental badges during the Royal period-these are but a few. ' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> |
Carol I |
Posted: January 18, 2004 12:20 am
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
Thank you very much for the images of the badges.
Could you please identify the badges shown in the last image? Are all of them chest badges or some sholder board pins are also included? |
Cuza |
Posted: January 18, 2004 02:27 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 117 Member No.: 165 Joined: December 14, 2003 |
[quote]Thank you very much for the images of the badges.
Could you please identify the badges shown in the last image? Are all of them chest badges or some sholder board pins are also included?[/quote] 1st row ltor: 1st Border Guard (1st variation) 7th Border Guard 2d Artillery Guard 9th Cavalry 89th Jandamaria 2d row: 9th Cavalry 14th Regiment? Officer Military Topography 1st Border Guard (2d variation) 35th Artillery 3d row: Mihai Viteazul Guard Regiment? hat badge Mountain Alpine-Ferdinand Army Aero Commander Group 3A Caucaz-Don 1942-43 Monitor Battleship 1st Fleet 4th row: 1st Pioneer Regiment unk 1st Artillery 9th Hunter Regiment Royal Guard Regiment Mihai Viteazul 5th row: Alba Julia Hospital 4th Artillery kepi badge 11th Mountain Troop 2d Guard Hunter's Regiment 15 Yr Mountain Troop unk The descriptions were given to me by the sellers-I have no reason to disbelieve them, but I have no independent source. I believe the "tinnier" pins are collar or kepi badges. My thanks to Greg of this site for some additional information. |
Carol I |
Posted: January 19, 2004 07:16 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
Thank you very much for the identification of the badges. It has been quite helpful.
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CCJ |
Posted: June 04, 2004 12:04 am
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Sergent Group: Members Posts: 183 Member No.: 286 Joined: May 29, 2004 |
Hi,
I think the Hussar Badge should belong to me. Do you need my hipping address? |
mihai |
Posted: June 04, 2004 08:17 am
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 450 Member No.: 30 Joined: July 08, 2003 |
What the Hussar Bagde do you have?
Mihai
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Carol I |
Posted: June 04, 2004 09:34 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
Since I have posted the images of the badges of the hussar regiments, I think the remark was directed to me. But unfortunately I did not understand it. |
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Victor |
Posted: June 04, 2004 09:41 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
The translation Rosior=Hussar is not really an appropiate one.
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Carol I |
Posted: June 04, 2004 09:42 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
What would be the appropriate translation then? |
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Victor |
Posted: June 05, 2004 07:26 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
Regular cavalry.
But a translation is not realy indicated, as these names are characteristic to the Romanian traditions (the Rosii cavalry corps dates back to the 16th-17th century) as the Huszar is to the Hungarian one. |
Carol I |
Posted: June 05, 2004 08:38 am
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
Cavalry is a more general term that encompasses many other cavalry types such as hussars, dragoons or cuirassiers.
I guess that some sort of a translation is needed, in order to properly identify this type of cavalry corps of the Romanian army. Indeed, among the many cavalry types, the ones that made it to the modern (even contemporary) times in many different European armies is the light cavalry usually known as hussars. And my opinion is that the Rosiori corps of the Romanian army represents a light cavalry that resembles most the hussars of other armies. Do you think Red Hussars is a better name for them? The term hussar might indeed have originated from 15th century Hungary, but then it described a type of light cavalry that did not exist in other armies of that time. But, as you probably know, the hussars were adopted by many other armies such as the Prussian, French or British and they do not all acknowledge the Hungarian origin. Some British sources say for example that the word hussar is supposed to have come from the Italian corsaro as they used more or less the same tactics in the beginning. But this is a completely different issue. |
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Victor |
Posted: June 05, 2004 07:01 pm
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The Rosiori were the regular cavalry untis of the Romanian army prior to 1890. The only other cavalry units were the calarasi, who were the territorial cavalry. There was no light/heavy cavalry.
Probably the closest equivalent in the western army would be the uhlans. But I would stick to the Romanian term. |
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