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Imperialist |
Posted: January 23, 2008 08:30 am
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![]() General de armata ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 ![]() |
It seems you still don't get it - what happens on the battlefield is considered a success if you obtain the political goals you set. Romania was part of a coalition and it played its part. The coalition won and the political goals of its bloodied members were accomplished. As long as you dismiss this fact or ignore it, you cannot understand the big picture. Your whole thread is based on unproven assertion. You assert that Romanians are proud in the "battlefield performance". That's a general statement that has to be based on something relevant - a poll maybe. Do you have anything to prove that or are you just fooling around? -------------------- I
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mateias |
Posted: January 23, 2008 11:46 am
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Sergent ![]() Group: Members Posts: 169 Member No.: 1704 Joined: December 02, 2007 ![]() |
It's commendable to know that also Jews fought in Romanian army and for their merits were awarded lots of medals. Also Turks, Tartars, Russians and Ukrainians. I still do not understand what is this all about ethnicity. Who cares if in the German army of WW1 fought also Jews ? Even Hitler's first racial laws protected Jews who were awarded medals for bravery !
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dead-cat |
Posted: January 23, 2008 12:19 pm
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![]() Locotenent ![]() Group: Members Posts: 559 Member No.: 99 Joined: September 05, 2003 ![]() |
the austrian armies of the 17th, 18th and 19th century were all multi ethnic. however in no other war, not even the one of 1866 the performance of the army was so abysmal. and by no means every component nation was unreliable. had the A.-H. army fought successful engagement from the start, the mood would have been better. contrary to other wars, where austria started more or less prepared, ww1 was started with big insufficiencies in terms of everything. the equipment as such was not bad but there was never even remotely sufficient. |
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feic7346 |
Posted: January 23, 2008 02:01 pm
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Fruntas ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Member No.: 1768 Joined: January 10, 2008 ![]() |
The Romanian army in WW1 had maybe 5% gypsies among them. These were given given land in the land reform after the war.
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feic7346 |
Posted: January 23, 2008 02:07 pm
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Fruntas ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Member No.: 1768 Joined: January 10, 2008 ![]() |
imperialist: I bet you are proud of the performance no?
mateias: the ethnic component is important because in a war of nationalism like WW1 when the shit would hit the fan, multi-ethnic armies folded like cheap suits! |
Imperialist |
Posted: January 23, 2008 05:57 pm
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![]() General de armata ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 ![]() |
Answering with questions... I hope you're basing your allegation on more than a bet, a gut feeling or a 1-person sample. Still waiting a clear answer. -------------------- I
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feic7346 |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:16 pm
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Fruntas ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Member No.: 1768 Joined: January 10, 2008 ![]() |
I have yet to hear a Romanian call the military performance what it was: NOT GOOD!
Every excuse is made. Every advantage Romania had is minimized. |
21 inf |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:27 pm
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![]() General de corp de armata ![]() Group: Retired Posts: 1512 Member No.: 1232 Joined: January 05, 2007 ![]() |
feic, you said this before.
do you have anything else to say, based on proofs, instead still acusing on this way? you expressed repeatedly your opinion on romanian army in ww1, so i believe all around here get your point. why dont you tell what your country did in ww1, just to know your opinion on that? |
Imperialist |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:57 pm
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![]() General de armata ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 ![]() |
It seems you are unable to differentiate between explaining reasons behind a military outcome and "making excuses". We offered you some info to better understand the context and the causes of the outcome. You shot them down as "excuses". From this attitude of rejecting info and your lack of more in-depth knowledge about the subject, it's obvious you're not on a crusade to educate Romanians about WWI military. I'd say you're on a crusade against Romanians that are proud of their country's performance in WWI, like you state in the first post. Given this, I think we've given you more attention than you deserved. This post has been edited by Imperialist on January 23, 2008 09:58 pm -------------------- I
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Posted: January 23, 2008 10:09 pm
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![]() General de corp de armata ![]() Group: Retired Posts: 1512 Member No.: 1232 Joined: January 05, 2007 ![]() |
I agree with Imperialist.
Too much attention we paid for "opinions" sustained with nothing from part of one who came from nowhere just to acuse Romania. 21 inf dixit! |
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