Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



Pages: (2) [1] 2   ( Go to first unread post ) Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> I.A.R. 80/81 - Request for information, Ammo load
csThor
  Posted: November 07, 2010 10:40 am
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 7
Member No.: 2614
Joined: September 04, 2009



Can anyone supply information on the ammo loadout of the IAR 80 and 81? There is not a lot around on the internet and sources conflict. I'm interested in the first IAR 80 series (4x 7,62mm MGs), IAR 81A and IAR 81C.

Thx in advance. smile.gif
PM
Top
Radub
Posted: November 07, 2010 12:01 pm
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



The 4-gun IAR80 carried 2400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition
The 6-gun IAR80A and IAR81 carried 2400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition
The IAR80B carried 1600 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 300 rounds of 13.2mm ammunition (which was later increased to 350)
The IAR80C carried 1600 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 120 rounds for the 20mm MG-FF cannon
The IAR81C carried 1400 rounds of 7.92mm ammunition and 350 rounds for the MG151/20 cannon

There was no IAR81A. It was planned as a dive bomber with heavy machine guns but it was never built.

HTH
Radu
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
csThor
Posted: November 07, 2010 12:06 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 7
Member No.: 2614
Joined: September 04, 2009



350 rounds for the MG 151/20 ? ohmy.gif That's a lot. Are you sure about that?

PS: Thx for the info. Could you pls list your sources? I need that for Il-2 1946 and Team Daidalos for one of the next patches.
PM
Top
Radub
Posted: November 07, 2010 12:31 pm
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



The 350 rounds of amunition is the figure known so far.
The best source available at this moment is the book "Vanatorul IAR80, Istoria unui erou necunoscut" by Dan Antoniu and George Cicos, Editura Modelism, 2000
I recently finished the work on a new book on the IAR80 that will be published soon by SAM Publications in the UK.
Please contact me off-list.
Regards,
Radu

This post has been edited by Radub on November 07, 2010 12:46 pm
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Hadrian
Posted: November 09, 2010 09:50 pm
Quote Post


Sergent major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 245
Member No.: 875
Joined: April 09, 2006



350 rounds for 2 MG151/20 means 175 rounds per cannon. Me-109 G had 200 rounds for it`s Motorkanone, La-5 had 200 rounds per gun.
PMEmail Poster
Top
csThor
  Posted: November 10, 2010 05:02 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 7
Member No.: 2614
Joined: September 04, 2009



Yes, that dawned on me a while after I posted. biggrin.gif

Sometimes you don't see the wood for the trees.
PM
Top
Hadrian
Posted: November 10, 2010 07:58 pm
Quote Post


Sergent major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 245
Member No.: 875
Joined: April 09, 2006



Dass kann jemand passieren... laugh.gif

This can happen to everybody... laugh.gif
PMEmail Poster
Top
Hadrian
Posted: November 10, 2010 08:08 pm
Quote Post


Sergent major
*

Group: Members
Posts: 245
Member No.: 875
Joined: April 09, 2006



10 IAR-81A were built in 1943, but because the germans released the Ju-87 for delivery, they were striped from their centerline bombrack and delivered as fighters (IAR-80B).
PMEmail Poster
Top
Radub
Posted: November 11, 2010 09:28 am
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



QUOTE (Hadrian @ November 10, 2010 08:08 pm)
10 IAR-81A were built in 1943, but because the germans released the Ju-87 for delivery, they were striped from their centerline bombrack and delivered as fighters (IAR-80B).

I assume you are referring to the series 291-300.
Indeed, these serial numbers were assigned to the IAR81A, but in the end they were manufactured as IAR80B.
The aircraft type was written in black on the tail above the serial number. A number of existing photographs of aircraft of this series show that they were "80" not "81".
HTH
Radu
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Alex30cag
Posted: February 14, 2011 02:55 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 29
Member No.: 3005
Joined: February 12, 2011



a scheme of IAR machineguns you can defing here:http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar80.html http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar81c.html and you can download from down of page the oroginal plans of IAR 80 and IAR 81c biggrin.gif
PMEmail Poster
Top
Alex30cag
Posted: February 14, 2011 02:58 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 29
Member No.: 3005
Joined: February 12, 2011



sorry the first link didn`t worck, trying this one: http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/iar80.html
PMEmail Poster
Top
Radub
Posted: February 14, 2011 03:11 pm
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



You can safely ignore that website. Nothing new or exciting.

The data is erroneous in many places. For example, is states that the IAR81-C was armed with 2x20mm cannons and 4x7.92 machine guns.

Those are not "original drawings". They are drawings made by by Dan Iloiu in 1989 and printed in Modelism.

HTH
Radu

PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
Alex30cag
Posted: February 14, 2011 03:30 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 29
Member No.: 3005
Joined: February 12, 2011



Yes now I looked at drawings and I saw that there are some mistakes. If you have another plans please contact me.
Thanks!
smile.gif
PMEmail Poster
Top
Alex30cag
Posted: February 14, 2011 03:33 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 29
Member No.: 3005
Joined: February 12, 2011



and if that plans are better than they biggrin.gif
PMEmail Poster
Top
Radub
Posted: February 14, 2011 03:36 pm
Quote Post


General de corp de armata
*

Group: Members
Posts: 1670
Member No.: 476
Joined: January 23, 2005



Where did you see mistakes in the drawings? I am interested. wink.gif
I was referring to the errors in the text.
Radu
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Pages: (2) [1] 2  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0137 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]