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Benoit Douville
Posted: December 15, 2004 06:39 pm
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I would like to know your view about the fact that In June 1941 Romania joined the Axis, primarily in hopes of regaining Bessarabia and Northern Bucovina. Is it the principal reason? What are the other reason?

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Posted: December 15, 2004 09:05 pm
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In my opinion,because Antonescu,like all dictators ,was thinking he's invincible.
How anyone can be so stupid and attack the Soviet Union????
Couldn't they read maps????
The Romanian infantery,like the Germans,went to war on foot like Napoleon's "Grand Armee" .And they said the war will end by Christmas biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
I hope you undestand you created a "HOT" topic smile.gif

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Posted: December 15, 2004 10:06 pm
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Benoit you should better read this older topic first to get an idea about pre-war Romanian diplomacy. Romania was set for Germany before Antonescu came to power.

Weather the Red Army was beatable or not, that is the subject for another topic. I personally think it was.
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Benoit Douville
Posted: December 16, 2004 04:19 am
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C-2,

In your view Antonescu really think he was invincible, can you elaborate more on this. I believe that in 1941 the Red Army was pretty bad and the Germans, Romanians and all of the other Axis Forces came really close to beat the Red Army but like Victor said that's a subject for another topic.

Victor,

That is some interesting stuff that Romania was set for Germany even before the War, so it is still true to say that the regaining of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina by Romania was an important reason?

Best Regards to both of you

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Posted: December 16, 2004 07:07 am
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QUOTE (Benoit Douville @ Dec 15 2004, 06:39 PM)
I would like to know your view about the fact that In June 1941 Romania joined the Axis, primarily in hopes of regaining Bessarabia and Northern Bucovina. Is it the principal reason? What are the other reason?


From curiosity!

How bad can be to wake up a hibernating bear? After that, we know well...

Who search it, find it!

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Posted: December 16, 2004 08:20 am
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QUOTE (Benoit Douville @ Dec 16 2004, 07:19 AM)
That is some interesting stuff that Romania was set for Germany even before the War, so it is still true to say that the regaining of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina by Romania was an important reason?

The restauration of the borders prior summer 1940 was the most important reason.

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Posted: December 28, 2004 04:19 pm
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After conquering on 26th of June 1940 the portion between Nister and Prut, Stalin started to think to incorporate the rest of Moldavia, up to the Oriental Carpathian Mountains. Endless skirmishes and harassment started along the new border between Romania and U.S.S.R. - the Prut River, because of the provocative actions of the Red Army.

Germany was not too eager to see Soviet Union too close to the Ploesti area, by far the biggest source of natural petroleum for Wehrmacht. That's why Germany supported Romania politically in tempering Soviet Union at the Eastern Border. And that's why Romania became an Axis satellite.

However, this does not answer the question: Why did Romania attacked Soviet Union? As far as I know, we could obtain the lost territory just by offering to Germany our petroleum, wheat and whatever industrial support we could offer.
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Posted: January 18, 2005 12:56 am
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Why Romania joined the Axis Forces?
A quarter of the country was cowardly taken by the soviets and they were preparing to take the rest. What was Romania suppose to do? At least the germans never wanted Romanian soil.
If not for Barbarossa, the soviets would have invaded Romania in the summer of '41, documents about this have been found in the soviet's archives!
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Posted: January 18, 2005 07:09 am
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QUOTE (Le_Conducator)
At least the germans never wanted Romanian soil.


But not forget that the Germans were responsible for the loss of NW Transylvania by the Vienna Diktat.
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Posted: January 18, 2005 07:41 am
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QUOTE (dragos @ Jan 18 2005, 07:09 AM)
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At least the germans never wanted Romanian soil.


But not forget that the Germans were responsible for the loss of NW Transylvania by the Vienna Diktat.


And, when we remembered that... we switch the side, at 23.08.1944... So, Romania is happy - we give some to russians, some to hungarians and some to germans. Hey, we forgot bulgarians!!! laugh.gif

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Posted: January 18, 2005 09:52 pm
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QUOTE (dragos @ Jan 18 2005, 07:09 AM)
But not forget that the Germans were responsible for the loss of NW Transylvania by the Vienna Diktat.


The Romanian politicians are guilty for the diktat, *** offensive wording removed by administrator ***. Next, the Romanian politicians weren't able to negociate with the germans on the terms: we have oil - you don't, we can give it to you - you need it, we give oil to you - you leave us the whole Transilvania.
If not for the germans' diktat the hungarians would have invaded Romania and in this case guess what eastern contry would have interfered.

He's right, we tend to forget about the bulgarians! Let's write them down on our black list.

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Le_Conducator, avoid offensive post. Read the Forum Guidelines
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Posted: January 18, 2005 10:15 pm
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The Romanian politicians are guilty for the diktat, 'cause if we would have fought for Basarabia, the hungarians would had not had the courage to make any claims on Transilvania, military reasons of course. ("Istoria sincera a Romaniei")
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Posted: January 18, 2005 10:39 pm
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QUOTE (dragos @ Jan 18 2005, 01:09 PM)
But not forget that the Germans were responsible for the loss of NW Transylvania by the Vienna Diktat.

Don't forget the Italians from your list.

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Vienna Diktat

Old habits die hard, don't they? biggrin.gif

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Posted: January 18, 2005 10:50 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Jan 19 2005, 01:39 AM)
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Vienna Diktat

Old habits die hard, don't they? biggrin.gif

Last time I checked, it was a Diktat smile.gif
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