Fake Grand Cross Order of the Crown?

This means the badge is not made in silver.

If the badge is however made in silver it might indicate a piece older than 1906.

I think that had the box been made in Russia during WWI, then it would be more likely to sport the cipher of King Ferdinand than that of Carol I.

Commander's Cross for Civil, 1st model (1881). Marked "JRF" (Joseph Resch). Extremly rare model with Carol I cipher in the center instead of the crown.




Do you know more info about it ?

Source:La galerie numismatique Auction III

This post has been edited by Claudiu1988 on March 18, 2006 04:28 pm

What makes this commander cross extremly rare ??? In my oppinion is an ordinary commander's cross. The medalion was changed with other one from the model II.

This post has been edited by aviatiadasenzatia on March 18, 2006 05:40 pm

What makes this commander cross extremly rare ??? In my oppinion is an ordinary commander's cross. The medalion was changed with other one from the model II.

Its a "transition" piece from 1932, after King Carol2's reform! They have used old pieces from the stock and have replaced only the crown! Maybe an emergency piece until the new model was estabilished.They are also breaststars with caracteristics from both models.Indeed, this kind of pieces are rare.

You can be right , but also someone with not too many skils could replace the crown with the cypher. I think is a 10 minutes job. All you need is to have the both models.

This post has been edited by aviatiadasenzatia on March 23, 2006 06:23 pm

A Commander's Cross with odd-looking lettering on the reverse (from eBay)

What can you tell me about this Crown of Romania: the period??? It's quite a strange piece.

Early issues of the Order of the Crown in Knight, Officer and Commander had a flower or floral type design between the top of the topmost arm and the circular piece holding the ribbon ring.

In my experience, the floral suspension on the ribbon ring indicates a WW1 period made piece. Other characteristics of the tapered edge of the arms on the cross indicate foreign Manufacture, possibly French or Austrian. Earlier versions of the cross are indicated by impurities in the white enamel. Example black specs are found in the white enamel. This would indicate 1870's-1880's period.

Floral topped commander with poor white enamel and non-Romanian manufacture. What do you think RUC?

A nice heavy and early piece. I have one identical to this. The ribbon loop on my piece has 2 assay stamps on it, But I cannot make them out under a magnifier. Crude or not very well stamped. As for which country ? My guess is French Manufacture, but this is only a guess.

I'd like to get your opinion on these two orders. Time of manufacture, any particularities? Thanks.

The first one:




The second one:



This post has been edited by mabadesc on June 26, 2007 03:25 pm

I think that the first one, knight with swords, is made by the national mint, typical ww2 construction.
Both are originals in my opinion.