Bucharest 1928

Hi Romanian aviation friends.

I have two questions for you:

1) Please, do you have anybody information about air competition of reconnaissance and bomber aircraft in Bucharest on autumn 1928?
In Bucharest were test in these time these aircraft - Letov S-116, Letov S-216 (Czechoslovakia), Amiot 122.BP2 (France), Vickers 146 Vivid (Great Britain), Fokker C.Ve (Netherlands), Junkers K 37 (Germany), Aero A-30 (Czechoslovakia) and unknown type of Italian firm Breda.

2) What was first (Christian) name of Gen. Rudeano (I have information that Gen. Rudeano was in the late of twentieth commander of Romanian air force.)?

Thanks for your possible help.

Best regards, Marcel Kares from Czech Republic.

He was General de corp de armata Vasile Rudeanu.

By the way, who won that contest? Because none of the mentioned airplanes types saw service with ARR.

Gen. Dénes

Hi Denes.

Thanks for your help.

Here is score list of contest in Bucharest 1928:

Letov Š-116.2 (reconnaissance version)
- engine: Skoda L (368kW / 500HP)
- total weight: 2600kg
- payload: 1090kg
- maximum speed: 232km/h
- minimum speed: 114km/h
- maximum ceiling: 6600m
- climbing on 5000m: 28' 10"

Letov Š-216.1 (reconnaissance version)
- Gnome-Rhône Jupiter VIII (353kW / 480HP)
- 2400kg
- 1000kg
- 226km/h
- -----
- 7070m
- 23' 25"

Letov Š-216.1 (bomber version with bombs)
- Gnome-Rhône Jupiter VIII (353kW / 480HP)
- 2569kg
- 1169kg
- 214km/h
- 102km/h
- 5600m
- 28' 58"

Vickers 146 Vivid (G-EBPY)
- Napier Lion XI (397kW / 540HP)
- 2518kg
- 905kg
- 234km/h
- -----
- 6400m
- 27'

Fokker C.Ve (H-NAEU)
- Hispano-Suiza (441kW / 600HP)
- 2568kg
- 950kg
- 240km/h
- -----
- 6700m
- 25'

Amiot 122.BP2 (F-AIUQ)
- Lorraine-Dietrich 18Kd (478kW / 650HP)
- 3880kg
- 1800kg
- 210km/h
- -----
- 5600m
- 37'

Junkers K 37 (S-AABP)
- 2×Gnome-Rhône Jupiter VI 330kW / 450HP
- 4116kg
- 1500kg
- 220km/h
- -----
- 6700m
- 21'

Information about scores of Aero A-30 and Breda aircraft are unknown.

Romanian air force negotiated with Czechoslovak firm Letov but French companies Potez and Breguet thwarted promising negotiations of exporting the Letov aircraft to Romania. Romanian air force used in these time similar types Breguet 19 and Potez 25.

Regards, Marcel.

Was it by any chance the "Little Antanta and Poland" contest in 1929 ?! That particular contest was won by major Gh. Jienescu.
Jienescu nu era străin faţă de asemenea raiduri. În anul 1929 ocupase Locul I la un concurs al Micii Antante şi Poloniei. România a participat cu avioane monoloc de vânătoare pilotate de maiorul Gh. Jienescu, locotenenţii Constantin Tănăsescu Eugen Pârvulesu şi Gogu Ştefănescu. Itinerariul stabilit pentru concurs a fost Bucureşti – Iaşi – Varşovia – Praga – Belgrad – Bucureşti. Din cele 24 de avioane ale celor patru ţări participante la concurs, au termint concursul aterizând la Bucureşti numai zece, din care patru erau româneşti. Trebuie precizat că timpul a fost extrem de nefavorabil.
source: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gheorghe_Jienescu

Hi MaxFax.

The air contest in 1929 among Little Entente (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Romania) and Poland won Czech pilot Capt. Josef Kalla on fighter Letov S-131. Here are results of this contest:

1 - Winner Czech Capt. Josef Kalla, Letov S-131
2 - Czech Capt. Karel Mares, Avia BH-33-VII
3 - Yugoslav Lt. Leonid Bajdak, Avia BH-33
4 - Yugoslav Capt. Zlatko Sintic, Avia BH-33
5 - Romanian Capt. Tr. Paelea, Dewoitine D-27 C.1
6 - Romanian Lt. E. Parvulescu, Nieupor Delage Nid-72 C.1
7 - Romanian Lt. C. Tanasescu, Dewoitine D-27 C.1
8 - Polish Lt. G. Bajan, Spad S-61 C.1
9 - Polish Capt. L. Pamula, Fiat CR-20

Course of race: Bucharest - Jassy - Lvov - Warsaw - Cracov - Prague - Brno - Zagreb - Beograd - Bucharest.

Regards, Marcel.

There was a similar contest also in 1928, when mr. Emanoil Ionescu and his pilot (lt. Nicolae Iliescu?) won second place.

I believe we are talking of two different issues.

The purpose of the contest mentioned by Marcel was to select a bomber airplane type to equip ARR.

The air race Max-Fax was referring to was a military-sporting event, which was won the the best team.

Gen. Dénes

More likely to select a fighter plane for ARR.

I believe is about Cpt. Traian Paclea (not Paelea).

More likely to select a fighter plane for ARR.

No. That contest was held later on, between July and October 1930, called International Fighter Contest. Interestingly, not the actual winner aircraft type was eventually ordered by the ARR, but the 4th placed one.
More details in my upcoming two-part study, to be (hopefully) published in Model-Ist magazine, No. 3 and 4.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on May 30, 2009 02:22 pm

I'm very interested in this text. I can send you some additional documents, if you like (more than was used in 1st part of my article from "Lotnictwo" 12/2006).

can u please help me identified who this Dewoitine D-27 pilot is? thank you!

Wow, glad to hear that ...
Just can't wait to buy the magazine ....

Hi Romanian friends.

Mr. Cantacuzino has a little truth. In Bucharest on autumn 1928 were test together with reconnaissance and bomber aircraft three fighter aircraft also. There were test English Avro 567 Avenger II (civil registration - G-EBND), French Nieuport type probably Nid 623 or 62.C1 (civil registration F-AIPO or F-AIPQ) and fighter version of Fokker C.Ve.

On all reconnaissance and fighter from this contest in Bucharest I have photos from this contest.

Marcel.

Thanks for the piece of info, Marcel. I was not aware of this side of the 1928 contest. What was the outcome?

Gen. Dénes

More likely to select a fighter plane for ARR.

No. That contest was held later on, between July and October 1930, called International Fighter Contest. Interestingly, not the actual winner aircraft type was eventually ordered by the ARR, but the 4th placed one.
More details in my upcoming two-part study, to be (hopefully) published in Model-Ist magazine, No. 3 and 4.

Gen. Dénes

will be published in Model IST no3 for SURE!!!