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Posted: November 11, 2004 07:54 pm
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Hello, I was very pleasantly surprised to find this great website and the forum for talking about ARR.
I did model an IAR 80 at one time and with Victor Nitu's help was able to put together a diorama and write about the pilot Ion Galea, here is the link, sorry if it loads long, it is on an almost defunct polish server.
http://www.old.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze...r-80/index.html
Well, I am not writing the above to brag just to show my genuine interest and of course ask for help.
First of all I really love to know as much as possible about a particular pilot and therefore my main question is: Are there any English text books about or written by one of the major Romanian Aces? I especially like autobiographies or biographies written about the pilots by contemporary writers or writers of their era. I would really appreciate any help in this matter.
If there is such a book I would of course need it and then would build the Me 109G of that pilot.
If there is not then I want to build Bazu's Messerschmitt, probably G4 with white 24.


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Posted: November 11, 2004 08:11 pm
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There is Denes Bernad's book "Rumanian Aces of WW2" published by Osprey this year.
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Posted: November 11, 2004 10:43 pm
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nice diorama!!!
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Posted: November 12, 2004 12:12 am
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QUOTE (Artur @ Nov 11 2004, 07:54 PM)
Hello, I was very pleasantly surprised to find this great website and the forum for talking about ARR.
I did model an IAR 80 at one time and with Victor Nitu's help was able to put together a diorama and write about the pilot Ion Galea, here is the link, sorry if it loads long, it is on an almost defunct polish server.
http://www.old.modelarstwo.org.pl/lotnicze...r-80/index.html
Well, I am not writing the above to brag just to show my genuine interest and of course ask for help.
First of all I really love to know as much as possible about a particular pilot and therefore my main question is: Are there any English text books about or written by one of the major Romanian Aces? I especially like autobiographies or biographies written about the pilots by contemporary writers or writers of their era. I would really appreciate any help in this matter.
If there is such a book I would of course need it and then would build the Me 109G of that pilot.
If there is not then I want to build Bazu's Messerschmitt, probably G4 with white 24.


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Gyndobre Arthur

I write you from Switzerland . I am not a real modeller just a former military pilot and currently an airline pilot. I had a lot of spare time this year which seems to be full of empty space as well to a lot of people in a lot of countries and I have been building a lot of WWII, German fighters, 8th Air Force Bombers and Fighters and Russians...I have looked so long to buy an IAR-80 model 1:48 or 1:32 ......with AAR marking where the heck can I find it and who sells it ? How did u paint your IAR 80 is it by a chance a spray gun or just hand painting?

Let me know at PLT767E@yahoo.com

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Alex

PS : I was borned in Bucharest
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Posted: November 12, 2004 02:16 pm
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If there is not then I want to build Bazu's Messerschmitt, probably G4 with white 24.


Bazu flew Bf-109 G-4 " white 24" for a short period in summer '43. It was not his regular mount. But with this particular plane in one day (16 august'43) shot down 3 soviet planes and 1 damaged. If you are interested i can give you photo with Bf 109G 4 " white 24".
Other regular bf 109 G's flown by Bazu were:
1. Bf 109 G 2 " white 4'' flown in summer '43. The camouflage was overall green with 22 vic. bars on his tail fin according to Lt.Dobran testimony. With this plane shot down 2 soviet Spitfire MkV .
2. Bf 109 G 4 " white A " ( written on the rudder) with 44 vic. bars on the fin. With this plane he won many victories between april- june '44.
3. Bf 109 G6 '' white 3" flown in summer '44. ( no picture found )
4. Bf 109 G6 " white 7'' at the end of august '44.( no picture found)
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Posted: November 14, 2004 03:23 pm
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If you are interested i can give you photo with Bf 109G 4 " white 24".

Yes indeed I would like that veru much, thank you.

Other regular bf 109 G's flown by Bazu were:
1. Bf 109 G 2 " white 4'' flown in summer '43. The camouflage was overall green with 22 vic. bars on his tail fin according to Lt.Dobran testimony. With this plane shot down 2 soviet Spitfire MkV .
Any pictures or profiles of that one?
2. Bf 109 G 4 " white A " ( written on the rudder) with 44 vic. bars on the fin. With this plane he won many victories between april- june '44.
That one I would particularly like to make as it appears to have been flown by him a lot, but in this case a picture would be essential especially because of the "A"

I really want to do a G2,4 or 6 of Bazu during the war, best would be a machine that he flew for a long time and one that is associated with him. White 24 is the only profile I was able to find so that constitutes my sole source. Pictures are so much better, even poor quality ones as they let you decide how to show a plane, without having to rely on profiles ( which are just someone else's interpretation, right? ).
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Posted: November 14, 2004 04:56 pm
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Hello Artur,

Just passing by and i saw your message. If you want to make a plane that Bazu had, i can recomand you a nice kit by Hasegawa at 1:48. All the pieces are nice modeled and it is not very difficult to make (my big problem is the painting-- lack of airbrush) It's an Bf 109 G6 Erla canopy type red 2. In this plane he made it's last victory against a FW190 on 25 february 45 and, minutes after he and his wingman Darjan were written off by a german schwarm lead by Lipfert.

Also the kit has the decals for a no 13 plane pilot T Greceanu in summer 44

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Posted: November 14, 2004 07:06 pm
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Artur, please use the [QUOTE] tags when replying, as it makes it easier for someone else to follow your message.

Btw, the IAR-80B no. 222 was of slt. av. Carol Anastasescu, not of Ioan Galea.
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Posted: November 15, 2004 04:50 am
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Yes, Victor it was indeed Anastasecu who piloted 222 and he flew during Tidal Wave. It has been some time ago that you gave me that article and I forget for mixing up my Romanian pilots. I believe the plane was originally Ioan Galea, but then I repainted it to match your story.
As you see now I have come to another project involving Romanian pilots.
I believe some time back I got from you or someone else a link to a Romanian webpage that has all the aviation literature on it. Unfortunately I lost that link and now I just cannot Google it or find it in any other way. I remember there were some books in both Romanian and English about some of the pilots, perhaps another has been added to the list over the last five years?
I would really like to read a book about Bazu or Serbanescu.
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Posted: November 15, 2004 08:28 am
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I would really like to read a book about Bazu or Serbanescu.
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Unfortunetly the only books about this two great pilots were romanian written. ( Modelism editor) But short description of the two romanian aces exploits was also published in english and french by other authors ( ex: Denes " WWII Romanian Aces" -Osprey editor).
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Posted: November 15, 2004 09:26 am
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QUOTE (Bernard Miclescu @ Nov 14 2004, 04:56 PM)
Hello Artur,

Just passing by and i saw your message. If you want to make a plane that Bazu had, i can recomand you a nice kit by Hasegawa at 1:48. All the pieces are nice modeled and it is not very difficult to make (my big problem is the painting-- lack of airbrush) It's an Bf 109 G6 Erla canopy type red 2. In this plane he made it's last victory against a FW190 on 25 february 45 and, minutes after he and his wingman Darjan were written off by a german schwarm lead by Lipfert.

Also the kit has the decals for a no 13 plane pilot T Greceanu in summer 44

Yours,
Bm

Hello bernard,
Do you have additional information about the Bf 109 G6 "2red" flown by Bazu Cantacuzino, in that mission? The only information I was found is in Aeromagazin FARR supplement, and a photo in Mr. Denes Bernad book about Romanian aces.
The " Raport Operativ 176/25.02.1945" is specific about the pilot that flew this plane? What about the Bf 109 K 4 flown by Helmut Lipfert in that day? there are other informations about it?
I want to build the Hasegawa kit and I need additional information about that 2 red G6.
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Posted: November 15, 2004 04:19 pm
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QUOTE (Bill @ Nov 15 2004, 03:26 PM)
Do you have additional information about the Bf 109 G6 "2red" flown by Bazu Cantacuzino, in that mission? The only information I was found is in Aeromagazin FARR supplement, and a photo in Mr. Denes Bernad book about Romanian aces.

Besides the mentioned photo, on p. 64, there is a colour side view as well, No. 32, published on p. 46. What other information would you need on 'Red 2'?

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What about the Bf 109 K 4 flown by Helmut Lipfert in that day? there are other informations about it?

Hptm. Lipfert did not fly a 'Kurfürst' that day, but rather a 'Gustav'.
For details, check out the book based on his memoirs.

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Posted: November 15, 2004 04:21 pm
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Nov 15 2004, 02:28 PM)
short description of the two romanian aces exploits was also published in english and french by other authors ( ex: Denes " WWII Romanian Aces" -Osprey editor).

Short biographies of the four leading Rumanian fighter aces (Cantacuzino, Serbanescu, Milu and Vizanty) are indeed included in my book published by Osprey.

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Posted: November 15, 2004 11:15 pm
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I know they are, I read them several times but my apetite for history makes me want more, more, more :-)
Well, perhaps in the age of computer publishing and translation software we can break that language barrier one of these years.
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