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Agarici |
Posted: July 11, 2005 11:56 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 745 Member No.: 522 Joined: February 24, 2005 |
Are you sure these are Russian soldiers? I saw they (some of them) have helmets attached on their knapsacks, apparently the French Adrian type. As I know, the Russian soldiers did not use any helmets during WW 1. Could they have been something like Russian volunteers on the Western front or "White" Russian troops after the Bolshevik revolution (also note the Lebel rifles)? |
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Ruy Aballe |
Posted: July 11, 2005 09:27 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 307 Member No.: 247 Joined: March 18, 2004 |
The Imperial Russian army used the Adrian helmet during the Great War, mostly among the troops sent to France to fight alongside the French and British allies; the Russian Adrian helmets have an elaborate badge with the Czarist eagle - it was replaced with several national insignias and eventually with the red star after the fall of the Russian monarchy. Eventually, a local, licenced version of the Adrian helmet was made for the Soviet army. It was adopted in the late Twenties.
On the other hand, it should be noted that the Russians also developed an indigenous steel helmet based on the French design, the M. 1917. It was never issued in sizeable numbers to the troops due to the events that took place in Petrograd on the model designation year, but it ended up being used both during the Civil War and afterwards. The original order called for the manufacture of 600.000 helmets, a task undertaken by two firms based in Finland (still a part of the Russian empire when the helmet was designed...), G.W. Sohlberg and V.W. Holmberg, apparently due to the proximity of the Petsamo nickel ore mines. The political unrest, the bolshevik revolution and the ensuing war prevented it from being issued in quantity, but some were used. The production was resumed in the early Thirties. |
Jeff_S |
Posted: July 13, 2005 04:01 pm
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 270 Member No.: 309 Joined: July 23, 2004 |
Resumed by the Soviets (presumably outside of Finland)? Or resumed by the Finns? |
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Ruy Aballe |
Posted: July 15, 2005 10:19 am
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 307 Member No.: 247 Joined: March 18, 2004 |
The production was resumed by the Soviets, outside of Finland. The Finnish army reissued a small number of the so-called Sohlberg helmet from ex-Czarist stocks. In spite of the very limited quantity available(c. 500 pieces), the helmet received a specific Finnish model designation, M. 18. I saw two of these Finnish helmets in Madrid; they were refurbished by the Finns in a rather improvised way - it is difficult to find identical leather work and linners. The shortage of helmets in the Finnish army prompted the purchase of surplused Austro-Hungarian and German helmets from several sources in 1920 - M 16, M 17 and M 18 (80.000). This post has been edited by Ruy Aballe on July 19, 2005 10:39 am |
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dragos |
Posted: September 28, 2005 12:42 pm
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Photographs from the defeat of 1916 (unfortunatelly some of the files are missing)
http://www.westfront.de/englisch/romania.htm |
dragos |
Posted: September 28, 2005 12:55 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
Other interesting photographs and illustrations (including some photos from the link above at a better quality) here:
http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War.../Rumania_01.htm http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War...ian_Soldier.htm http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War.../Rumania_02.htm |
dragos |
Posted: September 28, 2005 01:42 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
KING FERDINAND OF RUMANIA REVIEWING SIEGE ARTILLERY AT A RECENT CELEBRATION IN BUCHAREST RUMANIAN SOLDIERS IN THE STREETS OF BUCHAREST A GROUP OF RUMANIAN OFFICERS AT AN ARMY POST Source: http://www.tkinter.smig.net/Romania/WarEntry/index.htm |
Dani |
Posted: September 28, 2005 02:28 pm
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Sergent Group: Members Posts: 198 Member No.: 323 Joined: August 13, 2004 |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/yourp...nacd_pics.shtml
Check pics 4, 10, 11 and 13. Romania WW1 related. |
109 |
Posted: September 29, 2005 12:01 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 85 Member No.: 488 Joined: January 29, 2005 |
During the occupation of Romania in WWI, the German propaganda issued a series of weird postcards, featuring funerals and even brothels...as if to demonstrate the uncivilised nature of the people they conquered ...who would have thought to send such postcards to his lover or family back in Germany!?!?
Notice the vexed german soldiers... This post has been edited by 109 on September 29, 2005 12:05 pm |
cipiamon |
Posted: September 29, 2005 09:16 pm
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 471 Member No.: 115 Joined: October 06, 2003 |
Verry intresting pictures, are thouse german postcards funerals of the enamyes? If not where is the ideea of a postcard?
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Victor |
Posted: September 30, 2005 02:33 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
109, please do not forget to mention wether the postcard belongs to you or you find it on the net (and where).
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109 |
Posted: October 02, 2005 06:51 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 85 Member No.: 488 Joined: January 29, 2005 |
There'r my postcards.
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Carol I |
Posted: October 05, 2005 09:30 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003 |
I have already posted these articles, as well as several others, in Articles from 'The War Illustrated' and other WWI stories. |
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cipiamon |
Posted: October 12, 2005 01:34 pm
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 471 Member No.: 115 Joined: October 06, 2003 |
Time for a litlle peace
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Victor |
Posted: October 12, 2005 01:36 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
Please don't forget to mention the source.
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