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> Michael the Brave, 1st type with swords.
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Posted: June 28, 2004 01:12 am
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can anyone tell me if any of the 1st type Michael the Brave with swords (F cypher) were ever awarded?
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Posted: June 28, 2004 06:32 am
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To my knowledge, there were no such awards. When the order was instituted in 1916 it had no swords. In 1938 King Carol II issued a decree according to which swords were introduced to all the Romanian war orders, the Order of Michael the Brave included. A new decree was however issued in 1941 that reverted many of the modifications introduced by the 1938 decree, including the swords of the Michael the Brave Order. It seems that some badges with swords were produced before 1941, but they were not awarded.
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Posted: June 28, 2004 11:11 pm
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Okay. I guess that explains the examples seen on collections and occasionally seen offered for sale.
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Posted: June 28, 2004 11:12 pm
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Does anyone know how many of the 1944 issue of the Michael the Brave order with swords were issued for each class?
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Posted: June 29, 2004 05:32 am
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Romanians - 486 3rd class
Romanian units - 45 3rd class
Soviets - 37 3rd class, 10 2nd class, 3 1st class
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Posted: July 05, 2004 05:09 pm
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Was the Soviet Army the only foreign country to receive the Michael the brave order 1944? What about the 2nd and 1st classes... did any americans or britains receive one of the 44 awards?
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Posted: July 28, 2004 07:51 pm
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Today at Gen.Dobran's home,I saw a photo of an oficer who got twice M.Viteazul.Once in the east and one inte west.
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Posted: July 28, 2004 08:50 pm
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There were several officers that received the MV Order model 1941 and model 1944. What rank was he? What service?
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Posted: July 28, 2004 09:39 pm
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I can't remember,he was in Dobran's class at argu Mures militar school,he sill lives and we can meet him!
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Posted: July 29, 2004 09:11 am
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I'll look him up.
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Posted: July 29, 2004 03:11 pm
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There was a lt. ® Tiberiu Stoenescu (mountain troops) that received both awards. The only other lieutenant that received them was Radu Balacescu, who was killed in 1944 in Transylvania.
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