Painting depicting Rumanian Air Force pilot: Suggestions?

[fltboss]

Greetings! I am new to this forum, having only discovered it recently.

I am an artist, specializing primarily in aviation subjects. I am researching the idea of doing a painting of World War 2 Rumanian aircraft, with the intent of writing a short description of the painting, for publication in Aviation History magazine, a U.S. publication. I can depict a specific historical event (such as the epic 10 June 1944 battle between ARR airman and U.S. P-38s), describing the action and the pilot(s) involved, or just choose a scene that shows the aircraft in more peaceful surroundings with more general information.

In my reading on the subject, I have noted certain personalities, such as aces Constantin Cantacuzino, Alexandru Serbanescu, and Dan Vizanty, whose exploits would make an interesting painting. But I want to be open to possibilities from those more knowledgeable than myself, and discuss some ideas that might represent the service of all Rumanian flyers, and show their place in the history of World War 2 aviation.

Any suggestions are welcome! Anyone may review my previous work on my website, www.jandersonart.com.

Regards,

Jerry

[Victor]

10 June 1944 is already depicted on Denes' "Rumanian Air Force The Prime Decade". maybe Bazu Cantacuzino shooting down Soviet ace Nikolay Khimushkin?

[Dénes]

Yes, but do we know the fuselage number of Bâzu's Bf 109G? The artist would need it in order to paint an accurate combat scene...

[Cantacuzino]

Other subjects for painting ARR war episodes:

- Tidal Wave :

1.) Lt. Barladeanu 2 victories ( B-24 ) with his IAR 80C nr.279
2.) Adj.Encioiu 1 B24 with Bf-109G4 " white 1"
( both with nice markings with mascots)

- Soviet front:

1.) Karpovka ( winter'43) near Stalingrad. 7FG defence with Bf109 E (under Serbanescu comand) shoting against the russian T-34 tanks ( with nice markings Bf-109 Emils like " Hai Fetito" of DiCezare )
2.) Bazu Cantacuzino 4 soviet vict. in one day ( 16 aug'43) with Bf-109G4 "white 24"
3.) Bazu fighting with soviet Spitfire V with his Bf-109 G2 "white 4" defending romanian Ju-88 bombers.

Bloody summer '44 ( daily american raids)

1.) June, 10 - Adj. Marinciu fight with Lightnings north Bucharest with his Bf109G4 " white M " ( 1 p-38 shot down at Giulesti near railroad ).
2.) August, 4 - Bazu Cantacuzino shooting P-38 flown by Lt. James Hardin(82FG) near Ramnicu Sarat with his Bf109G6 "white 3".
3.) B-24 victories of Lt.Gulan Ghe. with his IAR 80 M nr 114 " Getta" with 2 bars on the fuselage.
4.) Serbanescu victories over Mustang from 52FG ( july,31 and aug,4) est of Ploesti with his Bf-109 G6 " yellow 1" with 9FG badge on engine cowling.

[Dénes]

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Other subjects for painting ARR war episodes

Nice selection, Cantacuzino. :keep:

Here are a few points I'd like to make, though (off the top of my head, without actually having my files handy):

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- Tidal Wave : 2.) Adj.Encioiu  1 B24  with Bf-109G4 \" white 1\"          ( both with nice markings with mascots)

Do we know if Encioiu's mount was a Bf 109G-4 or G-2 (esc. 53 vân.)? Without having the Werknummer, we don't.

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- Soviet front:   1.) Karpovka ( winter'43) near Stalingrad. 7FG defence with Bf109 E (under Serbanescu comand) shoting against the russian T-34 tanks ( with nice markings Bf-109 Emils like \" Hai Fetito\" of DiCezare )

Do we know the fuselage number(s) of the much publicised 'Hai fetito!", i.e. DiCesare's Bf 109E? I don't.

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Bloody summer '44 ( daily american raids)   3.) B-24 victories of Lt.Gulan Ghe. with his IAR 80 M nr 114 \" Getta\" with 2 bars on the fuselage.

AFAIK, Gulan's 'Getta' was No. 104 and had three white vertical stripes painted on fuselage.

[Victor]

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1.) Karpovka ( winter'43) near Stalingrad. 7FG defence with Bf109 E (under Serbanescu comand) shoting against the russian T-34 tanks ( with nice markings Bf-109 Emils like \" Hai Fetito\" of DiCezare )

DiCezare and "Hai Fetito" were already at Morozovskaya when that episode happened. But there is still "Nella" of Tiberiu Vinca.

[fltboss]

Thank you gentlemen! You have given me a number of interesting options to consider.

Although I own a copy of Denes' book, I still believe I could do a good painting of 10 June 1944, from a different viewpoint, just as various artists have done many paintings of the Battle of Britain. However, do I like the idea of the battle between Bazu Contacuzino and the Soviet Spitfire...familiar aircraft in markings other than the "usual" appeal to me (I am currently working on a painting of a Honduran F4U Corsair downing a Salvadoran P-51). I also like the IAR 80 vs. B-24 scenario, or Serbanescu vs. the P-51.

Are accurate combat reports of any of these engagements available? I didn't know if these records may have been officially "misplaced" during the years of Soviet domination. Obviously, as most (if not all) or the pilots are deceased, these would be the only reliable method to determine sunlight, relative positions, angles of movement, and proximity of the aircraft involved, altitude, weather, etc.

I will take all of these ideas into consideration, and I will be in touch after my upcoming vacation. Thanks again to all!

[Cantacuzino]

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Do we know if Encioiu's mount was a Bf 109G-4 or G-2 (esc. 53 vân.)? Without having the Werknummer, we don't  There are no significant diference beetwen G-2 and G-4 for a painting . Do you think it need to be paint the exact number of rivets for each type of Bf-109 :loool:  Anyway, in your book ( Romanian Aces) i think it is a werk nr. for this particulare plane ( Cpt.Toma Lucian mount ) used in summer '43.

Do we know the fuselage number(s) of the much publicised 'Hai fetito!",
i.e. DiCesare's Bf 109E? I don't


Yes we Know !!! It is a big surprise made (for us ) by Di Cezare himself in a TV recent interview. ( I have a copy). The E-mil " Hai Fetito " was used in first campaign and after an accident was sent to ASAM Pipera to be repaired. Meanwhile Di Cezare flew other E-mils ( like " yellow 27'') . In the second campaign ( Stalingrad ) Di Cezare got back his mount "Hai Fetito" and he used in combat. From the documents this particular plane was left on Karpovka airfield ( damaged) and probably captured by the red army. The werk nr. of "Hai Fetito" is: 2486. For the number of the fuselage
it is only one digit and you can see it in the picture on this site in the Pilots section ( Di Cezare) for more informations for this subject i will ask two beer :cheers:

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AFAIK, Gulan's 'Getta' was No. 104 and had three white vertical stripes painted on fuselage. Yes Denes you are right ( I am not younger anymore I forget easy numbers)  :drunk:The three bars on the fuselage it appears to be the third squadron leader indentification.( similar on the Barladeanu IAR80 used in '44 as third sq.leader ) After the death of Lt.Barladeanu, Gulan   took command of the squadron.