surviving romanian equipment?

[daveh]

What Romanian equipment can still be seen and where?
Apart from eg the National Military Museum in Bucharest?
Are there web sites (in or with English) that show surving material?
I am particularly interested in AFV, artillery and aircraft.

Thanks in advance

[C-2]

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What Romanian equipment can still be seen and where? Apart from eg the National Military Museum in Bucharest? Are there web sites (in or with English) that show surving material? I am particularly interested in AFV, artillery and aircraft. Thanks in advance

You can find a Romanian Ju 88 in the US.In pefect condition.
I belive it's at Dytona museum.

[daveh]

How did that happen? Was it an aircraft used by defecters? Any further information on this incident?

[C-2]

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How did that happen? Was it an aircraft used by defecters? Any further information on this incident?

Yes it was a defecter.I don't remember right now his name,but he flew from Medias with a reco. plane to Cyprus. there the 88 was used by the RAF for testing.After the war somehow he was posted at Daytona museum and it's the best preserved Ju 88 in the world and in ARR colours!!!
Only one mistake occured: the nr on the 88's tail is 100 and something.
The reco planes had numbers from 1-99...... over 100 were bombers.

[Dénes]

The mentioned Ju 88D-1 (W.Nr. 430650) was, in fact, flown - without any maps, as not to raise suspicion - from Mariupol', on the Eastern Front, to Cyprus, by a lone airman, Serg. TR av. Nicolae Teodoru, on 22 July 1943.
It appears that the original serial number of the airplane was '1', not '105', as it's now shown on the Junkers exhibited at Dayton, Ohio. Moreover, the shape and size of the 'Michael's Cross' are erroneous as well.

A colour photo of this exhibit was included in the rear cover of my book, 'Rumanian Air Force. The Prime Decade (1938-1947)', published by Squadron/Signal, in 1999.

Dénes

[Csaba Becze]

Hmm a Rumanian aviation deserter in 1943? It was a lonely event, or some other pilots followed him later?

Csaba

[Bernard Miclescu]

Some defection that i know were in late 44 . I remember only the name of Aurelian Barbici who defected in his Bf 109 G6 "Vally" to the germans. Also his wingman defected the same day.

For more information ask Mr Bernad.
Bernard

[C-2]

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Hmm a Rumanian aviation deserter in 1943? It was a lonely event, or some other pilots followed him later? Csaba

There were more defecions in the first years after the war.
The well known As, Ion Galea ,was send to 18 years in prison because while he was in a high position in the air force a Savoia bomber defected from Brasov.
Together with the pilot was a military doctor and the comunist party incharge of the airfield and maybee others.It was winter time and the pilot flew over the mountains in order not to be intercepted.He was spotted close to the Jugoslav border .There was no way to defreez fighters and to send them after the plane.Like I said I.Galea spent 5 years in hard labor.

[Carol I]

Here is a link to the Junkers Ju 88D page on the USAF museum site.

I wonder who nicknamed the plane "Bacsis" (Romanian for "Tip")?

[Florin]

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QUOTE Hmm a Rumanian aviation deserter in 1943? It was a lonely event, or some other pilots followed him later? ........ The well known As, Ion Galea ,was send to 18 years in prison because while he was in a high position in the air force a Savoia bomber defected from Brasov. Together with the pilot was a military doctor and the comunist party incharge of the airfield and maybee others........He was spotted close to the Jugoslav border ...............

I guess Csaba was interested in defections during the World War II (and he got an answer mentioning that Romanian who defected to the Germans). Your interesting case is obviously after 1947. I am just guessing this, from your text:

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...and the Communist party in charge of the airfield...

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...He was spotted close to the Jugoslav border...

[Carol I]

Corbis has this photo of a Junkers Ju 88D in German markings said to have been the one flown by the July 1943 Romanian deserter.

[Carol I]

Another photo of the same plane, also from Corbis.

[C-2]

The Romanian Ju 88 ,at Dayton USA has the ARR colors!
The only mistake is the tail nr :the bombers use to have nr from 101-.....
The reco.from1-99.The one in Dayton is 11....,but it's a reco plane!

[Carol I]

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The Romanian Ju 88 ,at Dayton USA has the ARR colors!

Yes I know this (please take a look at my post a few messages above).

But this source claims that after being transferred to the Wright Field under some US markings, the plane received German markings. Please note that the source gives the same W.Nr. (430650) as quoted by Dénes in this topic.

This means that the Romanian markings under which the plane is now displayed in the USAF museum must be a later restoration. In fact Dénes says that the markings have many errors besides the serial number and therefore cannot be the original ones.

[TwistJG26]

Not as interesting as the Ju 88 D (which I have visited twice in Dayton and am searching for the pictures) or artillery are the Vz-24 rifles that the Czechs sold to Romania for WWII. I purchased mine a few years ago and only recently researched the serial numbers. These guns are identical to the K98. I take mine to the shooting range every Sunday. Unfortunately, the King Carl or Michael crest on the receiver was scrubbed off by the Communist after the war. Still a wonderful piece of history that one can hold in their hands and call their own.