Soviet Victories against Romanian Planes, Easern Front.

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Does anyone have a list of Romanian planes lost to the Enemy on the Russian front, especially to Soviet Aces, or their top pilots.

Soviet Top ace "Grigory Retchkalov", one of the best aces of the V-VS shot down a Romanian 'flying boat' over the black sea in his Aircobra in 1944, and he might have been responsible for some ju-88's as well.



Any other aces such as Pokrishkin, Lugansky, Popkov, Sytov, Shardakov, Kozlov, Lavrinenkov, Bazanov, Klubov, Shestakov, Kozachenko, Pokryshev, Kozhedub, Gultiaiev, Markov, Skomorokhov etc etc... (each with dozens and dozens of kills) must have had Romanian kills too...
(actually.. who was the soviet who achieved the most kills againt the Romanian airforce alone? ) - that would be interesting to find out...

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Does anyone have a list of Romanian planes lost to the Enemy on the Russian front

Yes, I have. It's the result of over 20 years of work... :wink:

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especially to Soviet Aces, or their top pilots.

What you're asking, namely to identify which Rumanian airplane was lost to which Soviet 'ace' pilot is very-very difficult, if not impossible. I could match only a few such cases, some included in my Osprey book on Rumanian Aces. Until the ex-Soviet archives truly open up - and it doesn't seem to be happening - it's almost impossible to match victories with losses (on both sides), as in published material the Soviet claims are usually vague, lacking concrete location, date, even type.

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aces such as Pokrishkin, Lugansky, Popkov, Sytov, Shardakov, Kozlov, Lavrinenkov, Bazanov, Klubov, Shestakov, Kozachenko, Pokryshev, Kozhedub, Gultiaiev, Markov, Skomorokhov etc etc... (each with dozens and dozens of kills) must have had Romanian kills too...

They certainly have. For example, Alexandr Pokryshkin - second leading VVS ace - shot down three Rumanian Ju 88As on Sept. 21, 1943 over Bolshoy Tokmak while flying a P-39 Airacobra.

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(actually.. who was the soviet who achieved the most kills againt the Romanian airforce alone? ) - that would be interesting to find out...

Again, what you're asking for is virtually impossible. I feel lucky if I can identify a couple of such cases, due to the problems with reliable information from the Soviet/Russian side.

What I can tell you, though, is which German fighter pilot shot down the most Rumanian airplanes :|

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Duttman I belive....

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No, Lt. Düttmann downed 'only' five Rumanian airplanes.
It was Uffz. Tammen, who scored the most victories against Rumanian airplanes, namely ten, all in Sept. 1944. Thus he became an 'Expert' solely by downing ARR warplanes.

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And Lipfert?

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Besides the Bf 109G of Cpt. Cantacuzino - which remained unconfirmed, BTW - Hptm. Lipfert did not shoot down any other Rumanian airplane, at least they are not identified as such in his wartime diary and victory list. He missed the Transylvanian campaign of September 1944...

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So the story that Darjan was shoot down by his former instructor ,at Tiraspol, is not true?

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Sorry, I switched the identity of Lipfert's victim (I was away from my sources). Indeed, it was Adj. stag. av. Dârjan who was most probably shot down by Hptm. Lipfert - his former instructor from Tiraspol.
Cpt. rez. av. Cantacuzino was shot down seconds later, possibly by Lipfert's wingman.

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I also believe Hartmann, the top ace -352- shot down one (?) Romanian plane as well.
That's all interesting, but I wanted to learn about Russian Aces. I read how many of their best aces fought on the southern front. Shestakov for example, an ace in the Spanish Civil war, fought at Odessa, flew I-16, and later in the war in 1944 over Moldavia he flew a La-5FN where he met his death.
Nickolay Skomorokhov
, an ace with 46 confimed kills, and 8 shared fought over Bassarabia, also flew a Lavotchkin and "participated in the liberation of Romania" as russian source puts it. In 1941, at least one Heinkel 112 was shot down by a famous russian pilot, i forget whitch one.

And what about Kimushin that was shot down by Bazu?
(by the way, if you have a picture of this man put it here, because I was unable to find any after searching both in English and Cyrilic name)
thanks.

PS:

Düttmann
passed away 09, January,2001

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Another leading Soviet ace, Ivan N. Kozhedub, also downed several Axis warplanes that could be Rumanian. For example, on 19 April 1944 he claimed a He 111 over Vulturul, while ten days later a Hs 129 over Jassy (Iasi).
In May he was credited with another two unidentified airplanes, shot down also over Moldavia, while in June with another four.

If you're interested in the topic, you should consult two books published in English, about Soviet fighter aces. The first one is written by Tomás Polák and is titled: 'Stalin's Falcons', while the second one, by Hans Seidl, is titled: 'Stalin's Eagles'.

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[quote]And what about Kimushin that was shot down by Bazu?[/quote]
What about him?

[quote]by the way, if you have a picture of this man put it here, because I was unable to find any after searching both in English and Cyrilic name)[/quote]
Did you spell his name correctly? He was Khimushin, not Kimushin.
In Cyrillic his name starts with an X, something like this: XNMYIIINH (reverse N to ge the 'I', while the III is actually 'sh').

BTW, there is a small photo of him in the vol. 2 of the 'Heroes of the S.U.' book, page 683. If you wish, I can scan it for you.

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Piotr Kozachenko, an ace with 27 confirmed kills, shot down the Heinkel 112b Fighter, # 12, flown by Adjutant Aviator Anghel Codrut of Grupul 5 vânãtoare, in his I-153 on 23 June 1941 near Bolgrad.



(like this, only the other way around )




The Lietenant Colonel lost his life in a fire-ramming, on March 3, 1945.

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Initially I also thought that Kpt. Piotr Kozachenko was the victor over Adj. av. Anghel Codrut's He 112B and mentioned the encounter accordingly in my Squadron/Signal book on ARR.
However, with more information becoming available from the Russian side, now it appears that the distance between the location of the claim and the loss is too big, thus Kozachenko's claim was the case of a mistaken identification only. I mentioned this in my Osprey book on Rumanian aces.

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Николай Химушин

About Khimushin I found only one source in Russian, and it is somehow innacurate and mentions not much about his death, nor Cantacuzino.

http://radislav.metronet.ru/himushin.htm

You may want to use this programm that translated directly from the URL.
http://webtranslation.paralink.com/urlmode.asp

Aparently this is him, and he was awarded the Hero of the Soviet union after his death, posthumously.


A Yak3 with 'somewhat' of a red nose is besides his picture, but that can't be his because it says he died in the summer of 1943, and that Yak was not operational until well into the next year... :roll:


Well, I'll try to find more about him, but he's not that poppular.
Only ONE street in Moscow is named after him.

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Hartmann has no ARR victories.
Ioan Marinciu was told by soviets ,that he was a victim of Hartmann.
Acording to Denes ,he was shoot by an Hungarian pilot.