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Posted: September 15, 2004 04:36 pm
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C-2 shall shed some light on these photographs.

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Posted: September 15, 2004 05:39 pm
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Thanks Dragos for the help :!:
The pictures were taken by Dan Melinte at Dicesare's house(had no time going too...).
Ther's a model of a monument mada by an arhitect in order to raise him in Ghencea cemetery ,for the pilots that didn't deserved to be buried there and had thrown to the garbadge. :mad:
If anyone has a better design it is welcomed.
We hope to build it and we may need some sponsors...
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Posted: September 16, 2004 12:55 am
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Is that an index finger pointing up? :shock:

I think a much nicer monument could be made, then this.

There is the Aviation Heroes munument in Bucarest if you know what I mean, that man with one one wing up pointing skywards.. Something like that could be build, I think something similar to that kind of monument would look better.
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Posted: September 16, 2004 01:13 pm
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It's not a finger. I believe it's a bird in flight (well in abstract vision). biggrin.gif
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Posted: September 16, 2004 03:46 pm
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There is the Aviation Heroes munument in Bucarest if you know what I mean, that man with one one wing up pointing skywards.. Something like that could be build, I think something similar to that kind of monument would look better


Der Maresal, I can't agree with you because of two problems :
1. The cost will be to high and the sponsors hard to find.
2. The space allowed in Ghencea cemetery for this monument is limited.

A small one could be also nice look if the design is good.
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Posted: September 16, 2004 03:48 pm
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Any architects around? biggrin.gif
Bogdan Patrascu is, but I don't know if he follows the forum constantly. I will contact him. Maybe he could help.
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Posted: September 16, 2004 05:19 pm
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Dan Melinte asked me to post some images here,

the first one is a memorial statue from USA, this images can be used as inspiration smile.gif but i think we can do even better
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In the second image we see the profanation of MANEA IOAN ( Gr.6 Vt.)
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In the third image we see the profanation of Cpt.ROSESCU IOAN from Escadrila 53 Vt. who crashed his Hurricane on the eastern front in '41, probably the main reason of this profanation
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Posted: September 16, 2004 07:14 pm
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hmmmmm...You need ideas for a monument? I might have some. I'll tell you and I hope you will find them interesting. How about if you would place a flyers felmet with wings (like the UK SAS has its sign a dager with wings), ore you can make a simple one, just some plain old propelers put in a cros, or you can take the ARR emblem an put some wings on it.
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Posted: September 16, 2004 08:18 pm
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It's not a finger. I believe it's a bird in flight (well in abstract vision). biggrin.gif

This simple design is good, but the "bird" resembles too much the McDonald's logo to be appropriate for this monument. Why not put an eagle instead (similar to the one existing on almost all the WWI monuments)?
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Posted: September 16, 2004 08:48 pm
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i recently traveled from Bucharest to Bran, via Brasov, and i've seen many monuments and i must say that the most impresive for me was the one arm solider that throws a grenade (Busteni), and not because is like an action figure but becouse the monument traps the esence.
The monument must be somthing more expressive for the future generation to understand somehow the scale of theyr grand-fathers devotion for defending Romania's borders and safety.
An abstract monument rises difrent ideas in diferent people.
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Posted: September 17, 2004 07:24 pm
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The idea is that the monument cannot be big ,because in ghencea is no place avilabele,since the "heavy generals" that never fired a shoot must be burried there in large crypts.
The monumenet shouldn't be very expensive,because he'll became a source of materials for other graves.
Everything should be as simple as posible!
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Posted: September 18, 2004 08:30 am
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In my opinion, this simple design reminds of the style of the monuments of the 1940s (except the "McDonald's logo"). I see this as an advantage because it relates to the period in which the pilots fought.
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Posted: September 23, 2004 07:42 pm
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Saturday 25 Sept,at the Bucharest Military Museum,General Ioan Dicesare will talk about the 7th fighter squad.The hour is 9.30am.
Those who are interested are welcome! smile.gif
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Posted: September 24, 2004 06:44 am
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Hope I will be there!
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Posted: September 24, 2004 01:09 pm
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Maby i can help you people,
my uncle is a plastic artist, that studied in Romania but now is living in Brasil. He have a large expierience , his latest big work was a cross with a Crist on it in iron that may have about 10 meters high. And is romenian so he gets the feeling.
I will talk to him.
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