Contemporary Wars

Indrid, check out this article:

http://www.counterpunch.org/weir02172005.html

Its very interesting... it certainly shows Putin in a different light.

take care

The U.S. may well be in decline. If the s..t hits the fan with the dollar and the deficit Bush is racking up, could accelerate abruptly. not good.

That female soldiers' story was discredited embarrasngly in the media..the Army tried to puff it up, got caught.

A try at democracy is better than no, imo Who said it's a perfect system, anywhere. What do u want? Return of monarchy, start over?

I laid out my reservations about Putin. I said inept, not incompetent. I see him as stumbling lately, for those reasons I put out. He's done some good stuff too.

Well... but precisely ... what kind of democracy is it ?

"We don't want to get rid of all liberals. I want to keep a couple, for example, on every major U.S. college campus so that we never forget who these people are."

-- Rush Limbaugh

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The kind of democracy where even an a..hole like Limbaugh can freely spout his drivel in search of ratings for his idiot radio show. The biggest joke of course was on him: he got busted for drugs, admitted he was an addict, went to rehab. This, after years of bashing addicts.

Watch what happens here on Bush'e domestic agenda....his biggie, Social Security "reform", long lusted after by the conservatives, is dead in the water. And this in this historic Republican majority. congress. hahhahaah

Only in America. Amerika to u, I guess. cheers. have a good weekend.

Good answer

How did this happen ?

This post has been edited by Chandernagore on February 27, 2005 01:00 am

When you looked at it, did you use magnifying lenses (for details), and binoculars (for the whole picture)?

Criticizing Rush Limbaugh is "politically correct". I do not defend this guy, because once it happened that I listened his radio show and I shivered, because I was appalled.

But what about all those kind of things which are not politically correct?

Even if you claim that, from a sexual point of view, you like only white women, because black women happen to don't fit you taste, you may be labeled as racist.
Why do I need to mumble "African-American" and use 7 syllables for it, when it's so simple to use one syllable and simply say "Black"? Why nothing happened to O. J. Simpson, after he killed his white wife? Why nothing happened to Jayson Williams, after he killed his white driver? Then he had a more serious legal problem, because he also killed his dog, which is much worse, according to the system of values we enjoy today. Why nothing happened to Kobe Bryant , after he raped that white girl in Colorado?

Why this country, which claimed equality for all since the first day of its independent existence, always has to discriminate against some of its inhabitants, one way or another? Always has to happen to somebody. Just the group differs, depending on period: Black Americans and Native Americans for so much time, the Chinese immigrants in California in the XIXth Century, the Japanese immigrants in 1942-1945. Today is our turn: people with European ancestry or origin.

Why Black, Hispanics and Native Americans have an easier path when they apply to enter at College or University, including points received just for their racial background, while their White competitors have to work hard to obtain the same points?

It is that damn hard to offer equal rights to everybody?

This post has been edited by Florin on February 27, 2005 04:02 pm

well it would not be fair. i will say no more because i sure would hate to start the politically correct horde going on about what i have said. we all here have prejudices and i admit ther are several ethnic groups i believe the world would be better off without. but i will not comment on this because the other races would surely llike nothing better that some white slavery ... this discussion is going straight to hell if we start talking about positive discrimination which i believe is a load of shit meant to cover something rotten.

let's get bak to contemporary wars

My last sentence in my previous post was:

And the first sentence from Indrid, immediately after that, was:

How should I qualify this? Let say it's funny... Because the discussion really goes to hell: If some people must be handicapped, to offer to the others a chance, this could mean that in a way or another these people are better than the others.

Yes, Indrid, but many of the contemporary wars were waged due to applying double standards to people. This means not treating them equally, while claiming equality as your cherished doctrine. This do not refer to one nation, or to a country in special.
Unfortunately, most of the politicians are not aware about the Romanian proverb:
"Ce tie nu-ti place, altuia nu-i face". (What you would not like to happen to you, do not incur to the others.)

This post has been edited by Florin on February 27, 2005 07:59 pm

"I don't know what's gonna happen man, but I do know this...I want to have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames"!

-Jim Morrison

How did this happen ?

The short answer: People r not buying it.

He wants to start individual private investment accounts, wherein workers invest a part of their social security (the U.S. pension system) tax in the financial markets. People r not confident in those. Hmmm..wonder why?

So the Republican congress people, mindful that THEY want to be re-elected after Bush retires to his ranch in less than 4 years, don't want to go out on a limb for it. It's hysterically funny, imo, cause Bush is really giving it the hard sell, flying around the country (to the red states, mostly; the blue ones he knows it's hopeless to even set foot in)

Bushies also tried to get people to think there was a "crisis" in Social Security. Nobody bought the language..they backed off that quietly.

Stay tuned.

this is a idealistic view at best. throughout the ages praying on the weak has been a policy of great powers. however what differentiates the powers of the old from modern days powers is that lack of bullshit propaganda - we do not want to colonize u , only allow u to taste out benefits, we do not want your oil, we want to give u democracy, we do not want to transform u into a market for our second rate products, we want to give u a chance to progress - and all the like. until about 100 years ago wars were for conquest, ballance of power, political gains..all of a sudden, it turned into giving freedom, democracy, fighting terorists and other shit that only retarded people can buy. if u look at the numbers, even if the theoretical reasons changed, the amount of bloodshed remained the same. this is what i mean when i say that when u draw the line and add up, perhaps nothing changer really, only the discourse for stupid people. it was a time when a call to war would make people inside a nation proud. now, all those " save the squirells" and" protect the right of the gay rapists" activists kinda destroyed what national pride stood for.

for the slow, i do not know if there are organisations like the ones i have previousey mentioned. they were metaphores. ***

Thank you

Indrid, avoid slanderous remarks.

they were not slanderous

When you looked at it, did you use magnifying lenses (for details), and binoculars (for the whole picture)?

Criticizing Rush Limbaugh is "politically correct". I do not defend this guy, because once it happened that I listened his radio show and I shivered, because I was appalled.

But what about all those kind of things which are not politically correct?

Even if you claim that, from a sexual point of view, you like only white women, because black women happen to don't fit you taste, you may be labeled as racist.
Why do I need to mumble "African-American" and use 7 syllables for it, when it's so simple to use one syllable and simply say "Black"? Why nothing happened to O. J. Simpson, after he killed his white wife? Why nothing happened to Jayson Williams, after he killed his white driver? Then he had a more serious legal problem, because he also killed his dog, which is much worse, according to the system of values we enjoy today. Why nothing happened to Kobe Bryant , after he raped that white girl in Colorado?

Why this country, which claimed equality for all since the first day of its independent existence, always has to discriminate against some of its inhabitants, one way or another? Always has to happen to somebody. Just the group differs, depending on period: Black Americans and Native Americans for so much time, the Chinese immigrants in California in the XIXth Century, the Japanese immigrants in 1942-1945. Today is our turn: people with European ancestry or origin.

Why Black, Hispanics and Native Americans have an easier path when they apply to enter at College or University, including points received just for their racial background, while their White competitors have to work hard to obtain the same points?

It is that damn hard to offer equal rights to everybody?

Not sure what PC has to do with abscence/prescence of demoracy, but I'd say that one person's "PC" is another's blasphemy.

IMO, you r hauling in a lot of loaded questions here. But, to the point, in a democracy of course u r perfectly free to do so, and perfectly free to organize other citizens to help u redress the problems.

European people discriminated against? Not where I live. They've owned the place for a few hundred years now, showing no signs of weakning, as far as I can tell.

this is a idealistic view at best. throughout the ages praying on the weak has been a policy of great powers.

Yes, Indrid, but I grew up in the Ceausescu's Era, when we learned that the world should be fair even for little countries. "Equal rights for all countries..." I hear it as if it would happen today.
Well, I guess I remained an idealist... Too late to change now.

This post has been edited by Florin on March 01, 2005 02:54 am

In the last 30 years all they did was to leave the big cities and to seek refuge into suburbs. Well, when there will be no place left to seek for refuge, so in a way they will be cornered to a "dead end", maybe we would see some less cowardly actions.

This post has been edited by Florin on March 01, 2005 12:01 am