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D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 22, 2004 09:12 pm
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General de brigada Group: Members Posts: 1058 Member No.: 328 Joined: August 20, 2004 |
Can someone who has those stories from Avion scan them please ?
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electric |
Posted: December 23, 2004 05:47 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 64 Member No.: 380 Joined: November 02, 2004 |
"Aripi In Furtuna" - Anton Marin, Editura Militara 1979
It's about post 23rd August 1944 ARR actions. This book fits the commie propaganda standard of it's time, being written by a former WW2 "active" witness : coll. ® eng. Anton Marin. It includes scenes mentioned by other books (such as Dan Stoian's - "Pumnul Tarii"); a nice (and well known) episode describes how Mr. Cujba repaired one damaged B-17 using acacia wood (rom. 'salcim'). Best Regards, Electric |
D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 23, 2004 08:05 pm
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General de brigada Group: Members Posts: 1058 Member No.: 328 Joined: August 20, 2004 |
Thank you Electric - do you have that book and is it worth reading ? For some reason I am unable to read more then 3 pages of a pre 89 book on ARR.
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C-2 |
Posted: December 23, 2004 09:16 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
We must been twin brothers |
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Florin |
Posted: December 24, 2004 07:44 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
I read "Aripi in furtuna" long time ago. Why "This book fits the commie propaganda standard of its time", from your point of view? Anton Marin wrote also a book about Romanian inventions and priorities during the early history of aviation. Quite an interesting book, even though sometimes he exaggerated our merits by neglecting to mention some foreign achievements in the same fields. This post has been edited by Florin on December 24, 2004 07:47 am |
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electric |
Posted: December 25, 2004 11:46 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 64 Member No.: 380 Joined: November 02, 2004 |
D13_th-Mytzu, yes I do have it; I think that all the books have to be read, in order for one to get a broader picture of the general and particular opinions.
Florin, my belief is that the books written before the Romanian '89 events must be read with the proper reserve... Best regards, electric. This post has been edited by electric on December 26, 2004 02:38 pm |
Ruy Aballe |
Posted: December 26, 2004 10:48 am
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 307 Member No.: 247 Joined: March 18, 2004 |
Bună!
Florin, the book you mentioned, written by Anton Marin, sounds interesting, even if it must eventually be read with a certain degree of precaution, as Electric has pointed out... Do you remember if the work of Eng. Ion Stroescu is mentioned by the author? By the way, I think one book is missing from the general list: "Seaplanes over the Black Sea: German-Romanian operations 1941-1944", by Cristian Craciunoiu and Jean-Louis Roba; Bucharest, Editura Modelism, 1995. ISBN 973-97497-2-0 Ruy |
Iamandi |
Posted: December 27, 2004 06:47 am
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004 |
Anyone read "Sfarleaza cu fofeaza" ? Ok is not with ARR, but was the first book with airplanes and romanian people. My first book, and when i was child i read it again and again... Ok. More serious - a little book "Sa vii acasa pe un nor" with some of the chapters with IAR-39 storyes. Back at childhood age - i read another one, a verry nice one, i forget his name, was with childrens in nearby of one of the airports of the ARR and "G" (at that momment i considered it was Fiat "G"-50...) and some of the real pilots from that period, pre and post 23 Aug. 1944. Some love storys, nice-nice-nice for that age. Iama |
alexkdl |
Posted: December 28, 2004 04:36 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004 |
Hello Denes
I hope you spent a nice x-mas. I started to read " Fortress Ploesti" and the author does mention you as the source of most ARR photos printted in...however he doesnt mention about the Roumanian author who participated or anything about a Roumanian partner on that books since this was part of some discussions on here. Also there's an other book called Rescue from Ploesti by William G.Williams , did you provide the very rare ARR photos in there because u arent mentioned ? He claims that most of its photos were from Maxwell AFB in the US....? Let me know Alex |
Victor |
Posted: December 28, 2004 09:31 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
I passed again in front of the Military Library. The author of "Festung Ploiesti" isn't mentioned on the cover. Only the Prahova County Museum of History and Archaeology.
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Dénes |
Posted: December 29, 2004 04:28 am
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Yes, I did help Jay Stout in his project with photos and info. However, he had a "mysterious" Rumanian collaborator, who did not want his name to be disclosed.
I am not aware of this book. Can you briefly describe the type of photos included in it? Are there any photos of Rumanian airplanes or airmen? Gen. Dénes |
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Dénes |
Posted: December 29, 2004 05:25 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003 |
There is a Rumanian language web site related to aviation - maintained by a former University professor of mine from Brasov - where various Rumanian books on aviation are listed on two pages.
Aviatori Gen. Dénes |
Victor |
Posted: December 29, 2004 07:38 am
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I did not want my name mentioned because I really didn't do much, except find and translate some passages from different books. I asked Mr. Stout to give the credits to the actual authors. |
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alexkdl |
Posted: December 29, 2004 01:54 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004 |
Hello Denes
Yes there are photos ARR I never saw before . But most intriguing of all are photos of Cantacuzino with Col.Gunn drinking wine upon arrival in Foggia , a ARR ME-109 which was painted with large a US flag which landed in Italy with Cantacuzino and Gunn , the same ME-109 ispected by US officers also Americans POW's photos in Roumania and after their camp was bombed by Germans. Also US POW's preparing to leave Popesti airfiled during Operation Reunion Alex |
alexkdl |
Posted: December 29, 2004 02:11 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Banned Posts: 1809 Member No.: 373 Joined: October 22, 2004 |
Hello Victor
There are as few books published in Roumania I would like to buy and due to my location i would be very grateful if you know the sources I can order them through in Boucharest by Internet or fax from end -Jurnalul al Locotenentul Dobran -Singurul pe cerul Stalingrad -Escadrila 52 de Vanatoare -Un erou Aviatorul Serbanescu Thanks in advance Alex |
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