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> Lt. Ioan DiCezare Bf-109 E-3 "Hai Fetito", The corect number on fuselage
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Posted: July 22, 2005 05:17 pm
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One more photo, this time from my collection, showing Bf 109E of Lt. Ioan DiCezare. The plane hasn't wings and the propeller is damaged.

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Posted: July 22, 2005 06:03 pm
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Very nice photo, Tomasz.
Thanks for sharing.

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Posted: July 22, 2005 07:01 pm
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I just called Dicesare and asked him about the photo.
It's in Husi,at the begining of the war.
He came to land but the landing gear wouldn't come out.
He tried some "hard mooves " in order to take the l.g out but in vain.
After talking by radio, a fireman truck wus present and he made a belly landing dammaging only the propelor.
The wings were taking out in order to fix the hidraulic mecanism .
(Before that the plane was raised with a crane and the L.G taken out).

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Posted: July 22, 2005 08:50 pm
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I think it would be fasciating to make an album (like mr. Dobran said) with pictures explained - like this one... I mean to also have the story behind the picture.
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Posted: July 24, 2005 07:17 pm
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I just called Dicesare and asked him about the photo.
It's in Husi,at the begining of the war.
He came to land but the landing gear wouldn't come out.
He tried some "hard mooves " in order to take the l.g out but in vain.
After talking by radio, a fireman truck wus present and he made a belly landing dammaging only the propelor.
The wings were taking out in order to fix the hidraulic mecanism .
(Before that the plane was raised with a crane and the L.G taken out).


I doubt that DiCezare remember force landing at Husi with Bf 109 E nr.9. From doc. archiv it is stated that Di Cezare made force landing at Husi airfield with Bf 109 E nr 27 ( not 9).
The picture could be taken at Karpovka after 7thFG retrait. The guy looking in the cockpit could be russian soldier . The Bf109 E nr 9 was left damaged at Karpovka after 7th FG escaped from Stalingrad encirclement. So probably was captured by soviets who took the picture.
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Posted: July 24, 2005 07:24 pm
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Tomasz what is the origin of this picture. Russian or from German sources. From Romanian sources it's definetly not.

Maybe so we can indentify who is the guy looking in the cockpit ( a russian or a german)

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Posted: July 24, 2005 07:43 pm
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Cantacuzino has a point here. DiCesare indeed belly landed aboard No. 27.
On another hand, No. 9 was indeed lost in the Stalingrad Campaign...
Perhaps Tomasz can give us details on the origin of the photo.

I have a photo from Soviet sources that shows an ARR Bf 109E, with the name 'Don Pedro' on the cowling. So the Soviets did photograph the airplanes captured at Karpovka...

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Posted: July 24, 2005 08:11 pm
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have a photo from Soviet sources that shows an ARR Bf 109E, with the name 'Don Pedro' on the cowling. So the Soviets did photograph the airplanes captured at Karpovka...


Denes, what is the number written on fuselage of " Don Pedro" on this photo from soviet sources ?
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Posted: July 25, 2005 01:56 am
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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ Jul 25 2005, 02:11 AM)
Denes, what is the number written on fuselage of " Don Pedro" on this photo from soviet sources ?

Unfortunately, it's not visible.
I would like to know it, too.

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Posted: July 25, 2005 07:43 pm
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The last photo of “Hai Fetito” (with damaged propeller) came from Germany together with the other photos of German soldiers and aeroplanes. It means that it isn’t machine captured by Russians, but the aircraft photographed on Axis airfield by German soldier. My photo is not "oryginal" old photograph, but it is modern copy taken from original WWII Geman negative.

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Posted: July 26, 2005 06:00 am
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The last photo of “Hai Fetito” (with damaged propeller) came from Germany together with the other photos of German soldiers and aeroplanes. It means that it isn’t machine captured by Russians, but the aircraft photographed on Axis airfield by German soldier. My photo is not "oryginal" old photograph, but it is modern copy taken from original WWII Geman negative.

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So the photo was taken in a german werft ( somewhere in Russia) and the guy looking in the cockpit is german ( as his quality boots convince me).
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Posted: December 30, 2005 04:49 pm
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Pipera airfield summer(Iuine) 1944.
On the "G" Soldat in termen,Dumitrescu.He was Dicesare's mechanic ,from the Odessa campain,till Sept 1944.
The painter's name -Lovinescu,was working for ASAM Pipera.
The dog was not a mascot,just an "airfield dog".
The young lady is Nela Munteanu.Lives today in Pajura.
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Posted: January 04, 2006 07:51 pm
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Not all at the same stage of completion, but a skin of Hai Fetito that I am working on for the Aces High flight sim.
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Posted: January 04, 2006 09:18 pm
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A small note: No. 9 had rounded, not square, cockpit canopy (although they were interchangeable).

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Posted: January 04, 2006 09:30 pm
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Wish we had the rounded canopy...
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