The Stukists, The Stuka Units, 'Grupul 3 & 6 Picaj'

If Galland leaved his Hs 123, I presume that another pilot took it, because it was not destroyed.

About Galland promotions:

- 01.05.1934 - Unteroffizier
- 01.09.1934 - Fähnrich
- 01.01.1935 - Leutnant
- 01.08.1937 - Oberleutnant
- 01.10.1939 - Hauptmann
- 18.07.1940 - Major
- 01.11.1940 - Oberstleutnant
- 04.12.1941 - Oberst
- 01.12.1942 - Generalmajor
- 01.11.1944 - Generalleutnant


Here are some pictures of another member of the Condor Legion in Spain (source http://usuarios.lycos.es/mrvalverde/)

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Barbosu , you did a great researching job, indeed the pilot in the middle is Leutnant Wick ( he was a Leutenent by than) and personally I would like to see a photo of Galland on HS-123 because I have his bio's and I couldnt even one photo of his sitting on a HS-123 but I confirm what other and Victor said he was SQD CO and he flew the HS 123 during Poland invasion.

Al

Bellow an other photo of Wick ( 56 aerials )

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Another one.

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Hello
The Knights Cross Holder pictured in the 1st page is Josef Menapace, a Stuka pilot from St.G. 1
Best regards
Denis

Denis, how did you come to this conclussion ? do you have any photos to back up this ...maybe this will enable a better identification...if you do , please post them ..thanks

Al

:-(

My research was in vain. Menapace wasn't between my RK holders photos (not East nor West Aces)

They do look alike a lot, Wick and Menapace !

Though I think Denis is right because he was in a Hs 123 sqd.

good for you Denis

Here is a photo of him (source: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.de/L...pace-Josef.htm). Please the text about him.



Barbosu

It's him for sure because behind him you can see the same Hs 123 with same Mickey Mouse on it!!
The two photos were shot the same day!!

Again, good job Denis. How, may I ask, did you find him?

BEcause I tried to find a RK holder awarded in the same time Galland was on his Hs 123 or at least naer that period. And Wick was the perfect candidate and looks like the pilot in the photo.

Menapace was awarded just in '42!! So Gallands plane flew all that time in south and midlle East or smthing like that?

Maybe Alex or someone who speaks german could read his portret at the link I gave you in my previous post.

About Galland:

I read an interview with him and he sais about Hs 123 and Poland.

Barbosu

This post has been edited by Barbosu on January 18, 2005 02:16 pm

Barbosu , heres is the translation



Knight cross holder Josef Menapace
Captain Luftwaffe



Born on 31.7.1920 in Linz/Austria , Josef Menapace was still particpant of the WHEEL ( no clue what that is ) with outbreak of the second world war.

He came in November, 1939 to the air force and was trained to be a pilot, he did his first operational flights as an officer cadet in Greece with the 8. (S) / training squadron 2 which was moved to Russia and was later on renamed in 1942 as I./assault squadron (Schlacht Geschwader)

Menapace which was used in all points of the southern and middle east front carried out on 31.7.1942 as a liason captain of 7. / SG 1 his 600th operational flight, as the most successful comabt airman on the airplane pattern Henschel Hs 123 . The knight's cross was awarded him on 20.8.1942 after 650 operational flights, in autumn, 1942 liason pilot captain in the newly established IL/SG 2, Menapace flew from September, 1943 again as a liason pilot captain in 1. / SG 1, after more than 700 operational flights, of it more than 650 on the Hs 123, the knight cross holder was shot on 6.10.1943 in his FW190 to the south of the Pripjet by hostile anti-aircraft AA and perished on that crash.

Alex



Honour to HIS MEMORY - GOD GIVES HIM THE LAST RESTS

This post has been edited by alexkdl on January 18, 2005 03:28 pm

I hate to repeat myself, BUT when you take an image from another website, post it using the [IMG] tags, NOT as an attachment. It isn't like I like editing your posts, as I have other things to do.

Also DO NOT post any image without mentioning the source.

My name sake is right , the Hs 123 pilot appears to be Josef Menapace:
[link already given above]

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on January 18, 2005 04:04 pm

I found the following photo on the 'net:

Source: http://www.geocities.com/herrvermylen/croatia1.jpg

Now, are these pilots German or Croat?
(Hint: check the badge pinned to the right pocket).

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on January 18, 2005 04:22 pm

Denes thanks for the photo, though I still dont think is the case , the pilots depicted are Luftwaffe pilots wearing the Croatian Ustasha Pilot Wings awarded to German pilots such as the Roumanian badge awarded to German pilots and vice versa, as a matter of fact I am working with my friends from JG54 and I will try to identify the decoration ceremonial depicted which maybe somewhere in Balkans too

Al

Denes, the puzzle is solved , they told me that the Croatian Ustascha Pilots were wearing modified Luftwaffe uniforms whereby they had to wear Ustascha logo on the left sleeve of the tunic and additional Croatian markings ....especially their detachment in Mariopol were wearing Luftwaffe uniforms.....well that solves the puzzle

Thanks working into the subject

Alex

THe plane is 100% Galland's!
The guys are just plaiyng and taking photos in it.
There were pilots like Galland Hartmann Barkhorn and also ARR pilots,like Dicezare,who no one could fly their plane.
The quewtion is what in writted on it?

ARR pilots did use German clothing (capturted in Arad in hight numbers).
Like Eusebiu Hladiuc.