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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 16, 2008 07:31 pm
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 17, 2008 08:36 am
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MaxFax |
Posted: January 23, 2008 08:41 am
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 255 Member No.: 7 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
On the www.cartula.ro/forum there is a hot debate if this are Pz 38 with Romanian markings or not ?! The lateral cross looks like Romanian's one or not ?!
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New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: January 23, 2008 08:46 am
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Tank number "714" seems to be carrying a swastika air recognition flag to the rear of the turret, possibly indicating they are German (unless Romanian tank units carried the same flags to aid the German Luftwaffe in identification??)
Or is the flag on another vehicle parked at the side of the road and the tanks are passing them? Kevin in Deva. This post has been edited by New Connaught Ranger on January 23, 2008 08:47 am |
MaxFax |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:07 am
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 255 Member No.: 7 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
Indeed there seems to be a flag with a swastika. BUT lets concentrate on the crosses !! There is a odd similaritie with the King Michael Cross, insn't it ?!
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Dénes |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:14 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003 |
Indeed, the side crosses look like Rumanian ones.
I wouldn't put too much emphasys on the German flag on the rear engine of the tank(s), as if they advanced in an area where German aircraft were operating it's much clever to carry a flag which is well known to them, than to risk being bombed in error... Gen. Dénes |
dragos |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:42 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
713 and 714 seems to be German tank numbers as illustrated by the decals of this model kit:
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/revi...ar/tri35020.htm |
Messerschmitt |
Posted: January 23, 2008 11:11 am
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Sergent major Group: Members Posts: 241 Member No.: 975 Joined: June 27, 2006 |
I know that not all of the tanks/armor was painted in camo, for ex. captured ft-17 were painted in panzer gray and they served to protect various objectives that could be a target to partisans. Altho, i`m not sure the tanks are "new" , because the tanks have round turret,the default one producet by Renault. After ww1 the turret was replaced with the Berliet type turret, wich was octogonal ( named after Berliet factory, which produced cars and vans) . Remember that Ro had some ft-17`s during ww1. |
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mihnea |
Posted: January 23, 2008 04:44 pm
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Capitan Group: Members Posts: 682 Member No.: 679 Joined: September 26, 2005 |
The two tank commanders have black uniforms, the Romanian uniforms were kaki and it's impossible to tell if the crosses are Romanian or not as the cockade is not visible, the picture is too grainy.
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: January 23, 2008 09:03 pm
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MaxFax |
Posted: January 24, 2008 07:33 am
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 255 Member No.: 7 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
I'm sooo sad !!! |
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MaxFax |
Posted: January 25, 2008 06:54 am
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Victor |
Posted: January 25, 2008 08:57 am
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The 713 and 714 also do not make sense, because the T-38 battalion only had 3 companies: 51st, 52nd and 53rd (IIRC). |
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boonicootza |
Posted: January 28, 2008 11:38 pm
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MaxFax |
Posted: February 01, 2008 04:08 am
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