Tank photos

That was the Balkenkreuz, i.e. Beam Cross, not Balkan Cross.

Gen. Dénes

Balkenkreuz the literal translation into the English language is: Balken Cross.[I]


ISBN 3-7909-0676-X

Published under PODZUN PALLAS 1999.

Yes, but it is BalkEn Cross, not BalkAn Cross, right? For this part of Europe the difference does matter.

Balkans = English.

Balken = German.

Difference in spelling, but describes the same place place.

That was the Balkenkreuz, i.e. Beam Cross, not Balkan Cross.

Gen. Dénes

Balkenkreuz the literal translation into the English language is: Balken Cross.[I]


ISBN 3-7909-0676-X

Published under PODZUN PALLAS 1999.

Yes, but it is BalkEn Cross, not BalkAn Cross, right? For this part of Europe the difference does matter.

Balkans = English.

Balken = German.

Difference in spelling, but describes the same place place.

No Balkans or Balkan is not the same als Balken...

then Balken means Beam in English or poutre in Francais

Regards

No Balkans or Balkan is not the same als Balken...

My point, exactly.

Gen. Dénes

panzer IV from ebay

same photo as above, but with a little bit of edit (grey tones and gamma):



On the side skirts of the turret, is that a hit from a shell or markings? It has a square shape.

LE. : this marking?





This post has been edited by Mircea87 on February 03, 2011 08:14 am

Nice picture, a good addition to the collection of the guy who's going to win the ebay auction.

Al

this national identification was used by romanian armoured vehicles in spring 1945.
And this picture has been taken in january 1944
ebay link
for the square shape, I don't know.

Someone got lucky with this album... is it one of our members ?

Al

The album wasn't such a big deal. Except for that particular tank photo, there was nothing really outstanding in it. My opinion, of course...

Gen. Dénes

Is this a captured TACAM T-60 since the soldiers who ride it seems hungarian to me? And the tank in front of him seems to be a Turan?
Foto taken from internet.

actually the turan tank is captured that soldiers are romanian
in 44 romania bought german helmets model 1938(i'm not sure) for the cavallary AA troops and paratropers
that flag on the turan is more likelly to be romanian flag and not hungarian, and the tankers look to ware romanian uniforms
also there is no mention of any tacam t 60 captured by hungarians , but are sources that talks about hungarian tanks captured by romanians

Thank you sebipatru for the interesting informations about the german helmets and the photo himself!

Wasn't that issue discussed already, here on the forum? Or was it on another forum, perhaps? Sorry if I'm going to repeat (or to ignore) something that was said before.

However, I think something might be wrong with the suggested explanation. Those were not calvalry soldiers, since those (the cavalrymen) wore high riding boots and not ankle boots and putees. And it is hard to believe that they were AA troops. Also the helmets seem (to me) to be the Stahlhelm M 1918 (or similar - and not the 1935 model) which were standard in the Hungarian army.

Is is so hardly plausible that they were Honvedseg soldiers riding two Romanian crewed TACAM T 60 and T 38 (or a TACAM and a Hungarian Turan)? At least posing for a propaganda photo?

This post has been edited by Agarici on February 27, 2011 11:09 pm

Those helmets are not the old WW1-era model, those were much wider at base. Hungarian-made steel helmets had a strap link bracket at the rear, which makes them easy to recognise.
As for such a propaganda 'coup' from the Hungarian side, if true it would be amateurish. Moreover, I don't really see the benefit of it.

Gen. Dénes

P.S. I have the impression that the tank in front is not a Turan, but rather a Zrinyi propelled assault gun.

This post has been edited by Dénes on February 28, 2011 06:42 am