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Agarici |
Posted: February 28, 2011 09:05 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 745 Member No.: 522 Joined: February 24, 2005 |
I see.
I didn't think of anything very elaborate, just a (perhaps) German inspired-idea to show the broterhood in arms between its two allies, somewhere on the Eastern front, in 1943-1944. Something like the propanagda photos with mixed Me 109 - IAR 80 (plus German and Romanian pilots) units. |
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mihnea |
Posted: February 28, 2011 09:26 am
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Capitan Group: Members Posts: 682 Member No.: 679 Joined: September 26, 2005 |
The picture is not a propaganda picture, if it is it's the worst one I have ever seen.
The architecture of the village is closer to Hungary than to Ukraine. The soldiers are romanian: vz-24 rifles, german helmets (not hungarian), on the first vehicle a soldier is wearing a distinctive romanian "capela". Also the romanian army had many shortages in 1944-1945 so I'm not surprised to see dismounted cavalry soldiers with puttees and low boots instead of high boots. And there are other photos of romanian soldiers with german helmets and puttees-low boots mix. |
sebipatru |
Posted: February 28, 2011 05:44 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
this picture isn't a propaganda one, this is an entusiastic picture taken by romanians when the were advancing victorious in an another transylvanian village in 44, but before the end of octomber, when all tacam t-60 were conficated
most probably this tacam t60 was a part of 62nd Tank-destroyer Company( as far as i know all the tacam that formed 61st Tank-destroyer Company were destroyed in Battle of Podu Iloaiei or conficated by soviets when captured 1 Armoured Division) |
sebipatru |
Posted: June 19, 2011 09:09 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
I'm just curios are there any photos of american tanks likes Stuart ,Grant or others captured and used by romanians in Crimeea in 1943-1944?
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Victor |
Posted: June 20, 2011 05:43 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
Personally I curious to see any first hand source confirming this rumor, which is a little far-fetched IMO.
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sebipatru |
Posted: June 20, 2011 07:46 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
axworthy's book talks about several Stuarts captured intact after a repulsed soviet landing and others captured in the same period , and also about 4 Grants captured in the same period
and if we take in consideration the need of armor in that period this tanks must have been pressed in service and also there is that list of AFV sent in home in the spring of 44 that confirm the fact that romanian army at least captured american armor in Crimeea, and we have that photo with a Sherman with turret destroyed by romanian ATG aniway in my opion the ideea of captured american tanks that were pressed in service locally by romanian in Crimmea, is highly probably to be true a nice day to all of you |
Alexei2102 |
Posted: June 20, 2011 08:03 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1352 Member No.: 888 Joined: April 24, 2006 |
fyi
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dragos |
Posted: June 21, 2011 10:59 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
About the amphibious soviet landing against Romanian troops
http://www.battlefield.ru/en/articles/165-tank-descent.html |
sebipatru |
Posted: June 21, 2011 02:07 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
Thanks for information
Aniway the article somehow suport the ideea of recovered tanks from the sea that appears in axworthy's book, because at least 2 barges with tanks were destroyed in shalow water but again as victor said there is no direct proof maybe in time and with luck |
sebipatru |
Posted: June 21, 2011 02:17 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 53 Member No.: 2990 Joined: January 26, 2011 |
and also in the last picture of these article is at least one intact Stuart intact on that barge
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mihnea |
Posted: June 22, 2011 01:28 pm
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Capitan Group: Members Posts: 682 Member No.: 679 Joined: September 26, 2005 |
I know there are pictures of Romanian soldiers being trained by Russians on how to use modern AT weapons in 1944 and in some pictures a Sherman tank can be seen used as target. I believe this was the main use of captured armor.
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Victor |
Posted: June 23, 2011 05:46 am
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It is true that the armor was captured, but it doesn't mean it was used. The description of the battles in the Kerch Peninsula in late 1943 don't support this theory. There were no Romanian tank troops in the peninsula, only some German StuGs IIRC. Furthermore, operating a tank is not like driving a car. You cannot just climb into a new one and be on your road. It takes training, practice and not to mention ammo for the weapons on the tank. The Romanian tank troops in Crimea used the T-38s they had. |
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ANDREAS |
Posted: July 16, 2011 11:58 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 814 Member No.: 2421 Joined: March 15, 2009 |
In Modelism International nr. 5-6/2008 page 8-13 I found an article called Ozereika 1943 where is described the failed attempt of the soviets to form a bridgehead near Novorosisk, troops who used M3A1 "Stuart" light tanks. There are a lot of foto there with destroyed or abandoned tanks, trucks and landing ships.
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Alexei2102 |
Posted: August 22, 2011 12:55 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1352 Member No.: 888 Joined: April 24, 2006 |
Let's get this thread back ontop with some nice additions from the Radu Korne Div:
1. Tankettes: a. Ukraine 1941: |
Alexei2102 |
Posted: August 22, 2011 12:56 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1352 Member No.: 888 Joined: April 24, 2006 |
b. Bessarabia 1941:
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