Romanian Me 109 F?

Like always you put in my mouth thing I didn't said....
I named Lipfert as an instructor not as a member of Jg 3!
If you want more instructor names ,there were capt Hornik and Maj Handrik.

No, like alwayd you are being extremely stubborn in recognizing your obvious mistaske and trying to steer the discussion in another direction.

The whole dicsussion was revolving around Dicezare's claim (transmitted through you) that the 7th Fighter Group had German instructors at Tuzov, which was on the front at Stalingrad, not an airfield suited for training. As I already said, my opinion is that Dicezare made a confusion and think I demostrated it, as III/JG 3 and the 7th Fighter Group were only two days together there. Furthermore there is no mention of German trainers for flying on the Bf-109E in September 1942.

As for Boremski and Lipfert, you brought them up in the discussion, when it clearly wasn't the case, as they both acted as trainers in 1943, when the front was hundreads of kilometers west of Tusov. Myztu's point, which IMO was very valid, was that the 7th Fighter Group didn't need instructors in 1942, to teach them how to fly on the BF-109E, as they had been doing that for more than a year.

Below is a file missions log of Sgt. Marinciu who made the 109 G transition at Tiraspol airfield with german instructors. You can see some Friedrich but also G's who are used by 9th FG ( with rom colors marks). Courtesy Marinciu Ioan.

Dan.

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I don't find nothing about bulgarian fighter pilots training between "E" and "G". They used - like us - "F"'s from Luftwaffe? Because i don't find "F"'s in Bulgarian A.F.

Iama

I don't think romanian used F for transition because was more easy to fly than G ( the same problem with narrow undercarriage) but because Luftwaffe doesn't used anymore Friedrich as a front line fighter. So why should destroy a new G model insteed of an old F model in training new pilots ?
So probably both romanians and bulgarians made the transition to G model with what they have ( Heinkel 112 , Emil or Friedrich).

Dan.

Below a picture with a Bf-109 F JG 52 believed to be used at Tiraspol for training rom. pilots by Luftwaffe. ( source Denes- ARR in WWII Prime Decade book)


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Is that a Jg 52 emblem?

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Yes it is-III/jg 52....

I see C-2 you are self-sufficient, as you are answering your own question.

Gen. Dénes

It is C-2 who ask this question ?

Yes, it is.

Denes,I wanted to step over my 666 post

Below a nice souvenirs for sales with JG 52 emblem.


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And complete replica pieces of the Rall Bf-109G.

This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on February 07, 2005 09:34 am

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[/QUOTE]And complete replica pieces of the Rall Bf-109G. [QUOTE]

And Gunther Rall in person.

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