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> Cantacuzino's Hurricane, Color of digit on the rudder?
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Posted: September 14, 2005 02:08 pm
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If Iam right Contacusino had flwon on Hurrcane in esc 53 van in 1941, I wonder if someone can say which digit had the Hurricane he flon on and what color did it have (the digit), Could be yellow or red?

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Posted: September 14, 2005 03:46 pm
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uhm, it is not COntacuzino but CAntacuzino.

Co-moderator's note: title edited (Cantacuzino instead of Contacuzion).

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Posted: September 14, 2005 08:46 pm
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Hurricane No 4 yellow
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Posted: September 15, 2005 08:19 am
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Thanks for the information and sorry for type error
In one Rumanian publication it was done red 4 HC of ARR as a this ace plane but I think it was also en error

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Posted: September 15, 2005 05:50 pm
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Red 4 is an error also Red 3 is an error. All ARR Hurricane had yellow digit.
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Posted: January 06, 2007 07:07 pm
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QUOTE (mgc151184 @ September 15, 2005 02:46 am)
Hurricane No 4 yellow

Does someone have a photo of Hurricane No. 4 (at least the tail)?
Thank you, in advance.

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Posted: January 06, 2007 11:56 pm
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Does someone have a photo of Hurricane No. 4 (at least the tail)?
Thank you, in advance.


Source: D.A. coll.

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Source: Aeromagazin ; artwork Teodor Morosanu

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Thanks, Cantacuzino. Currently I don't have access to any of my references, which are still in boxes, including the few Aeromagazine issues I have.

Strange, contrary to the colour profile, on the photo it seems that the rudder does not have the tricolour painted on. Perhaps the photo was taken right after the Hurricanes arrived to Rumania. Cantacuzino, if you have the whole photo, can you tell us if the markings are the pre-war roundels, or the so-called 'Michael's Cross' type?

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Posted: January 07, 2007 01:27 pm
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In the picture are not visible the markings (only the tail).
All the pictures with rom Hurricane i've seen the number on the fin are toghether with Michael cross markings (I never seen a rom Hurricane with pre-war roundels and number on the fin).

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QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ January 07, 2007 07:27 pm)
In the picture are not visible the markings (only the tail).

O.K., thanks.

What about the tricolour on the rudder? Can you see some traces of it in your photo? Or perhaps on another photo of No. 4?
I am wondering where did Morosanu take the info for his colour profile from?

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I am wondering where did Morosanu take the info for his colour profile from?

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You are wondering to much smile.gif You know that at one point that Hurricane wear tricolor rudder. It'a a matter of time and place. It's not the only picture like this ( remember IAR 80A nr 112 ). I saw another picture with no tricolor rudder on Huricane no 6 at IAR Brasov for repair .

Probably the paint was erased, or the rudder had fabric cover changed after repair.

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Does someone have a photo of Hurricane No. 4 (at least the tail)?
Thank you, in advance.


A small photo with no. 4 found on the internet.

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QUOTE (mgc151184 @ January 09, 2007 01:08 am)
A small photo with no. 4 found on the internet.

I have that photo. It's No. 1.

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I have that photo. It's No. 1.

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Sorry, my mistake. sad.gif

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Hi
Cantacuzino had used not only no 4 Hurricane but also no 7.
In my last story (printed in Poland in VII 2006), I have put the photo of force- landed Hurricane with yellow 7.
From Romanian sources is know, that not only 4 but he also used no 7 in comabt.
During one such dules he had to force landed after being hit by Soviet's tail gunner.
So this no 7 was also made as a color side in my story.
Text is only in Polski, no any English captions.

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Hurricane over Constanca and Odessa. Escadrila 53 Vânatoare in combat 1941 /Huragan nad Konstancą i Odessą. Escadrila 53 Vânatoare w walkach 1941 r., p. 17 + 2 color side (37 b&w photos, 1 color, 5 colour drawings of Hurricane I „red 1”, „yellow 5, 7, 8 + ex-VVKJ”), [in:] Militaria i Fakty 3(36)/ 2006.

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