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Posted: July 24, 2006 01:18 pm
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Kingdom of Romania - Medal award document dated 1943 - The Medal for the Crusade Against Communism - With Campaign Bar MAREA NEAGRA silvered. To a Gefreiter DRECHSEL of 1/IR 31 of the German army fighting on the Russian front. Brevet from Ebay.

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Posted: July 24, 2006 02:19 pm
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QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ July 24, 2006 12:54 pm)
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Sample of the German made Ribbon for the Romanian "Crusade against Communisum Medal 1941" on the left, and original Romanian Ribbon for the same award, the difference in width is about 10mm.

And if we take it that this bar is supposed to be folded at the edges it clearly is two small for the original Romanian ribbon:

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QUOTE (Carol I @ 15 March 2005)
I just remembered that ribbons used by the Germans were narrower than the Romanian ones. It could therefore be possible that the 'text-in-a-box' bars were manufactured according to German ribbon specifications.

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Posted: July 25, 2006 09:07 am
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Photographic* or documentry evidence** is produced then it remains in the fantasy world, hearsay is not conclusive evidence.

* this means a period picture taken during the time of WW2 and not the seller's picture of a bar being shown for auction.

** I have asked for information regarding the Official Military Regulations and the wearing of Foreign Decorations by the Wehrmacht in WW2.

As soon as I get a reply I will post the relevant information here.

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Posted: July 25, 2006 12:58 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ July 24, 2006 02:19 pm)
QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ July 24, 2006 12:54 pm)
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Sample of the German made Ribbon for the Romanian "Crusade against Communisum Medal 1941" on the left, and original Romanian Ribbon for the same award, the difference in width is about 10mm.

And if we take it that this bar is supposed to be folded at the edges it clearly is two small for the original Romanian ribbon:

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QUOTE (Carol I @ 15 March 2005)
I just remembered that ribbons used by the Germans were narrower than the Romanian ones. It could therefore be possible that the 'text-in-a-box' bars were manufactured according to German ribbon specifications.

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It appears that the German made bars had rounded blank ends. These were then puntured to produce a hole for sewing onto the ribbon. Romanian bars had tabs that folded over and behind the ribbon for attachment.
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Posted: July 25, 2006 01:34 pm
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ July 25, 2006 01:58 pm)
It appears that the German made bars had rounded blank ends. These were then puntured to produce a hole for sewing onto the ribbon. Romanian bars had tabs that folded over and behind the ribbon for attachment.

If the medals below are authentic, the Romanian clasps also had rounded blank ends which were supposed to be folded behind the ribbon. It was only the width of the 'useful' region of the clasp that was different.

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Posted: August 05, 2006 04:07 pm
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ July 23, 2006 02:17 pm)
Does anyone have any photos of German soldiers wearing this medal with bars ? I have only seen them wearing the medal without.

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Posted: August 12, 2006 10:16 am
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Other clasp of "Crimea" in ebay
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Posted: March 30, 2007 04:34 am
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photographic evidence:

The man on the right has a bar on his Crusade medal at the top-directly below his ribbons. I can't make out the bar's letters, even under extreme magnification, but I can tell it spans the entire ribbon and seems to bend behind the ribbon, not be sewn on like some of the above examples.


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Posted: March 30, 2007 04:35 am
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photographic evidence:

The man on the right has a bar on his Crusade medal at the top-directly below his ribbons. I can't make out the bar's letters, even under extreme magnification, but I can tell it spans the entire ribbon and seems to bend behind the ribbon, not be sewn on like some of the above examples.


well, apparently this doesn't work-so off to GMIC.

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Posted: October 31, 2007 03:09 pm
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the medal is sliver, I think this is a fake I
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Posted: July 27, 2008 08:13 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ November 12, 2005 10:51 am)

Are there any further details to update this list?

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Posted: July 27, 2008 08:19 pm
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QUOTE (Yu_L.Yan @ July 27, 2008 08:13 pm)
QUOTE (Carol I @ November 12, 2005 10:51 am)

Are there any further details to update this list?

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There is a mistake at the Nipru bar, the ribbon is from the Centenary Medal 1939.
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Posted: November 03, 2008 01:21 am
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Here is an interesting combination. Any thoughts on this one ?
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Posted: November 03, 2008 06:41 am
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A hand-written Yalta sign attached to an airplane pin? It's interesting, indeed. A Luftwaffe liaison officer perhaps?

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Posted: November 05, 2008 04:41 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ November 03, 2008 01:21 am)
Here is an interesting combination. Any thoughts on this one ?
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It's on Ebay right now. Watching it also as well as another one he has listed. Seem to becoming a little more "found" as time goes by.

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