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D13-th_Mytzu	Posted: July 10, 2005 05:23 pm
General de brigada Group: Members Posts: 1058 Member No.: 328 Joined: August 20, 2004	Ahhh, damn.. that was the initial spot I started with then navigatev east.Aparently it did not change url.Ok I will make a printscreen and post it here.Gimme 5 pls.

cipiamon	Posted: July 10, 2005 05:24 pm
Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 471 Member No.: 115 Joined: October 06, 2003	I did not know about the Pzl 11, great info. Brates lake is verry big, is a square shape, whit 10 km per side, is huge. If you what to find any planes you got to have a sonar and lots of pacience. Also i heard is not verry deep, and is got lots of vegetation. We would need an gps, a boat, and most important a sonar. A fisherman sonar is not verry expensive, around 200 euro, i think it could do the job, and all this just to find the plane, to recover it is some other kind of efort... If you whant we can go for other, easyer targets, at Mamaia for example I know at least two planes there.

D13-th_Mytzu	Posted: July 10, 2005 05:30 pm
General de brigada Group: Members Posts: 1058 Member No.: 328 Joined: August 20, 2004	Mamaia sounds great - but we better move this to another thread, I hijacked this one enough - sorry guys !

Dénes

Posted: July 10, 2005 11:16 pm

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QUOTE (George @ Jul 10 2005, 10:04 PM)

Indeed,there is an "Karas" destroyed at Mamaia on 04.07.1941 after take-off,but I don`t kwow if crashed in sea or on the ground.

My info mentions the 'Karas' being lost in the Black Sea, in the area of Palas-Constanta. The pilot was declared missing.

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Posted: July 10, 2005 11:17 pm

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QUOTE (D13-th_Mytzu @ Jul 10 2005, 10:21 PM)

Denes, Vadul lui Isac is the same thing as this lake ?

I have no idea. This is what's mentioned in the document.

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Posted: July 13, 2005 11:49 pm

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QUOTE (George @ Jul 10 2005, 10:04 PM)

Indeed,there is an "Karas" destroyed at Mamaia on 04.07.1941 after take-off

Can you confirm the airplane's tail number? Was it No. 7?

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GrzeM	Posted: July 22, 2005 01:29 am
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 3 Member No.: 629 Joined: July 21, 2005	Hi guys! There is a foundation "Polskie Orly" (Polish Eagles) in Poland which possibly finance finding the airplane of the Polish origin. They already found and restored Messerschmitt. But I don't know if they can act outside of Poland. I wonder what Tomasz Kopanski thinks about it? Grzegorz

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