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Frigate "Marasesti", Ex-destroyer| Iamandi |
Posted: July 27, 2005 05:52 am
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Tahnks, Carol I! So, now it can be seen "Elisabeta" don't have paddlewheels.
And, for Jeff and Agarici... is my fault, and i apreciate your jokes. When i make that comparison between Romanian Navy ships and Chinese... i had in mind poor systems of weapons on board of the each other at level of equivalent classes at 1980-1990 decade, and some years after the 90. After first years past 1990 China enriched gradually his technology and weapons sys. to present days when it haves some capacity to fight with chances to win. Tetal I and II ex. frigate indigene class were nice romanian things but they value in a modern war is zero. Maybe for patrol dutty or training, or maybe for blockade against civilian ships. Iama |
  
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| Agarici |
Posted: July 27, 2005 07:35 am
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I know this is what you meant, and I agree with you. What I don't understand is why they haven't done anything to improve the ships’ AA systems, not even after 1989 - it couldn't have been so expensive. At least some medium-range AA missiles… |
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| Agarici |
Posted: July 27, 2005 08:01 am
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OFF TOPIC AGAIN: Thank you Carol I, but I surely wasn't mistaking "Elisabeta" for "Romania". But I might be wrong about the paddlewheels. Iama, do you have the "Modelism" issue where "Elisabeta" was presented? And if you do, is it obvious from there that it had a propeller (and sails) and no paddlewheels?? If the answer to both question is yes then it's ok, I believe you, you don't have to scan the article and start a war with the secretary. We should try trusting each other for a change, instead of the regular skepticism.  |
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| Iamandi |
Posted: July 27, 2005 08:14 am
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Maybe a "combo"... Tetal frigates everyone with a SAM launcher to protect the light-cruiser/destroyer/frigate armed wit SSN.
Iama |
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| Agarici |
Posted: July 27, 2005 08:22 am
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Maior Group: Members Posts: 745 Member No.: 522 Joined: February 24, 2005 |
Iama, I'm still waiting for an answer to my initial question about "Marasesti". What version of the Styx does she use?
And what about those short-range AA missiles form the Romanian Telals? Of what type are they, what range do they have? Are the multiple launchers used, at least? How many per ship? |
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| Iamandi |
Posted: July 27, 2005 08:22 am
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Hihihihihi! The secretary girl is pretty nice and have some big "turrets"  . I think will be a nice war, if the winner side i will be my person. That girl will enter in "concediu" and in her place will be a coleague, with a son who's computer love me!  So, i think i will have access to the scanner for Elisabeta and for some other scans promised by me on this forum.Iama |
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| Carol I |
Posted: July 27, 2005 09:19 am
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OK, my error then. On the other hand, if I remember right in the 19th century it has been a big debate on the choice of propulsion system for ships: paddlewheels or screw propeller. The two systems were seen as competitive (not complementary as were the sails) and this is why I wonder if there has ever been a ship with a dual system "paddlewheels & screw" during that period. |
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| Iamandi |
Posted: July 27, 2005 09:27 am
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Well, it was at least one with 3 propulsion systems.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/society_cultu...allery_04.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/society_cultu...allery_07.shtml At the second link it is a picture with sails. Iama |
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| Carol I |
Posted: July 27, 2005 09:36 am
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Didn't know about Great Eastern. Thanks. Were there many more ships with a "paddlewheels & screw" propulsion system? |
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| Victorian |
Posted: November 10, 2006 11:29 am
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More information about "Elisabeta", including a very interesting photo, as it is quite unknown in Romania, at the following link: (italian site, but text half-english)
http://www2.agenziabozzo.it/navi_da_guerra...uerra/C-621.htm One short note, though: the ship is claimed to be "of the Marasti class", a class which is said to include two ships: Marasti and Elisabeta. Please keep in mind that there was no "Marasti" class in the romanian navy in the 19th century. "Elisabeta" was the one and only ship of her size and type. Apart of this, the information here is very accurate. Have fun with! |
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