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tomcat1974	Posted: July 26, 2005 12:19 pm
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	The media hits again... we they screwed it again .. http://www.jurnalul.ro/articol.php?id=2779 they just saw the year of enering in production of HAWK system, not the year of what version we will have ... God forbids that will buy Sidewinder... what they will say "RoAF is buying 50's missiles"

Victor	Posted: July 26, 2005 03:04 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003	It's funny that there wasa guy who saw that the missle's radar operated in the X band and said that it uses X rays, so this is why it is harmful.

tomcat1974	Posted: July 26, 2005 03:15 pm
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	That is the second Article in Jurnalul related to HAWK Secret "scandal"... Now they cause cancer .. first time they where "vechituri din ani 60".

Carol I	Posted: July 26, 2005 08:39 pm
General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003	What type of radiation are they talking about? Is it the radio waves of the radar? Is it X-rays or gamma radiation (wherefrom)?

tomcat1974	Posted: July 27, 2005 07:22 am
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	it is the radiowaves.. At least that is what Ive read about... the germans crew of Hawk used to kill squirells with tracking radar in lock on mode . Kind of big giant microwave oven

Iamandi	Posted: July 27, 2005 09:29 am
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	Why HAWK ??? Iama

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Posted: July 27, 2005 09:33 am

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QUOTE (tomcat1974 @ Jul 27 2005, 08:22 AM)

it is the radiowaves.. At least that is what Ive read about...

Well, nothing new then. It is known for quite some time that radar personnel is exposed to irradiation risks, the most common being sterility. As for cancer, I think it requires quite a high level of irradiation to produce the molecular changes needed for that. Anyhow, given the high incidence of cancer in the normal population, I do not think that there are enough cases to have a definitive answer on this issue.

QUOTE (tomcat1974 @ Jul 27 2005, 08:22 AM)

the germans crew of Hawk used to kill squirells with tracking radar in lock on mode . Kind of big giant microwave oven

It is pretty sadistic, but the squirrels surely did not die of cancer.

tomcat1974	Posted: July 27, 2005 12:13 pm
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	Yes ... the Squirel didn't liveed long enough to die from Cancer.. From same motifs on Mig25 it was forbiden to turn on the radar on the Ground. Iama ... Why hawk? Why not? The version that we bought is last version of HAWK PIP3. First missiles reached the units in 1990. Israel goth its HAWK PIP 3 in 1998. Turkey still waitong for them. HAWK is quite a good missile. Compare it with SA-2 we have now. True we have some SA6 also . Those are also older version and are not modernised. And we don't have money for Patriots

Iamandi	Posted: July 27, 2005 01:15 pm
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	My hands are shacking above the keyboard... and i try to not let my thumbs to pres on "Why".... "not" ... "a russian" .... "SAM sys"..... Sorry, was over my power to control them... Iama

tomcat1974	Posted: July 27, 2005 01:52 pm
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	'Cause we are NATO and we cut all our military ties with the red eastern neighbour

Iamandi	Posted: July 28, 2005 05:39 am
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	Greeks are in NATO? Iama

tomcat1974	Posted: July 28, 2005 06:37 am
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	they have a mix of stuffs ...

Iamandi	Posted: July 28, 2005 07:00 am
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	Mhmmmm... And why Romania cannot have a mix of stuff??? (Don't tell me "because we are in the kiss-ass tribe" ). Or, why we not make a deal with France or Italy? Iama

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Posted: July 28, 2005 07:08 am

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The last active Army Hawk unit was deactivated in 1994, and the last Army National Guard units disposed of the Hawk system in the 1996/97 time frame. The Hawk has been replaced in U.S. Army service by the MIM-104 Patriot and FIM-92 Stinger (and Stinger-based systems like Avenger) missiles for medium- and short-range air-defense, respectively.

The MIM-23K missile and AN/TPS-59(V)3 radar was operational with USMC units from 1995 onwards. Beginning in 1998/99 the USMC started to phase out the Hawk to replace it with the FIM-92 Stinger (leaving some gap in the medium-range air-defense capabilities of the USMC). There are conflicting reports as to whether the phaseout is complete at the time of this writing (late 2002).

Source: http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-23.html

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tomcat1974	Posted: July 28, 2005 08:50 am
Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 263 Member No.: 427 Joined: December 20, 2004	A deal with France or Italy for what? ... they don't have yet anything to offer... US defensive missiles is an area where paradox live Stinger is the panacee for everithing

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