ww1 and ww2 romanian war cemeteries

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In 13th of June 2009 at Sărăţel village, Şieu Măgheruş, Bistriţa-Năsăud county, was erected a monument in the memory of 25 hungarian soldiers who died on romanian soil in ww2. Until 2009 the graves of those 25 were not visible, as the ground was used as pasture. From now on a cemetery was organised form those graves and a monument was raised. At the inauguration were held religious ceremonies of catholics, reformats and orthodox, in hungarian and romanian laguages. Relatives of those 25 hungarian soldiers comemorated were present at the ceremony, also oficialities, including ONCE (Oficiul National pentru Cultul Eroilor). Photos from ceremony at http://www.once.ro/

Several monuments from different villages:

First, Griviţa



Then somewhere in Buzău (maybe Costeşti):



Almost done, Pătârlagele:



And finally, Oarba de Mureş:



...see next post

...with it's gutted 20mm flaks guarding the rear entrance


markings:


and the mortars guarding the main entrance:


This post has been edited by Mannlicher on August 22, 2009 04:16 pm

I'm looking for graves and monuments related to any French soldier buried in Romania.

Thanks to you, I could located tombs of the French soldiers of Timisoara (and to publish their names in the French website dedicated memorial-genweb).

So far I'm still missing Pitesti, Galati and Oreada french graveyards - if someone has some information or pictures, it will be most welcome.

Once, we identified a tomb, we can cross checked with some other data base and find information such birth place, regiment, date of death, reason of death etc ... It usually helps people doing genealogical research and even for some people to come in Romania to visit the graves.

The whole project is based on volunteer and the results can be consulted by anyone free of charge.

Most of the research I've made can be found in the following link (sorry it's in French) :
http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/...pt.php?dpt=9114





reading your thread, I saw that you were looking for Romanian soldiers buried in foreign country. You can find below, what so far, some volunteers identified as Romanian graveyards in France. The list should grow in the coming months.

WW1 Romanian soldiers (mostly POW) :
http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/...resultnatio.php

To access information, click on the link ''source''


Also you can look at this link :
http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/...fr/resultnd.php

Mostly WW2 casualties (resistant, romanian citizen engaged in the French army). We can easily say that most of them are real heroes.

Many thanks,

Mike

As far as I know there is no french military cemetery in Oradea, nor any french graveyard from ww1 in Oradea.

There is only a monument into a parc in center of Oradea, monument very debated when it was raised, after 1989, because the people arguing said there was no presence of french troops in Oradea in ww1, like it was the case in Banat at the end of ww1, in 1919 and some period of time after this year.

Hallo Frenchie / Mike

Welcome to the Forum, if you want to copy my pictures on this thread,

of the French graves located in Timisoara, please feel free to do so.

Kevin in Deva.

On the french site there is an error regarding the monument of the french soldiers from Oradea. The french site says that in Oradea is a monument erected to honour the french soldiers who are buried in Oradea.

In reality, on romanian site of ONCE it is sayd in romanian about the Oradea monument dedicated to french soldiers: "Opera comemorativă a fost dezvelită în memoria eroilor francezi care au murit în România în Primul Război Mondial, fiind aituată în spatele Casei de Cultură." Translation: "The comemorative work was inaugurated in the memory of french soldiers who died in Romania during WW1, being emplaced in the back of Cultural House".

As I said above, there are no french men buried in Oradea, cos french army was never in Oradea during ww1.

Thanks for your quick replies.

21 inf : ''As far as I know there is no french military cemetery in Oradea, nor any french graveyard from ww1 in Oradea.''

Good to know, it will avoid uneccessary research there - i was misleading by a document from ONCE stating that there some French soldiers buried in a desafected graveyard from Oradea called Ruvikovski (pdf doc - page 9 and 10) :

http://www.once.ro/carti/Eroi%20si%20mormi...in%20Fudulu.pdf
(sorry i don't to cut and paste from a pdf doc)

Thank you as well to spot the wrong translation about Timisoara monument - we'll make the change.


Kevin from Deva : Many thanks to give us the authorization to use your pictures. It's really helpful.

The monument I was refering it's in Oradea, not in Timisoara, and for this from Oradea the translation was wrong in the french website.

Yes, indeed, the pdf document from ONCE site says in romanian language that there was a military cemetery in Oradea were french soldiers from french military mission were buried.

I knew only the debate about raising the monument, it seems that in a certain period of time french soldiers were indeed buried in Oradea. Sorry for misleading you, unintentionally.

Living for all my part of my life in Oradea, I can tell that nowadays in Rulikovski cemetery there is no military cemetery from ww1, neither romanian, nor foreign.

The pdf document stated that there IS NO MORE foreign military cemetery from ww1 in Oradea, since 1952, when it was disabled. The article doesnt provide any info about what happened with the bones of buried foreign military from ww1, only that after some years of discussion between Oradea's Townhall and Ministry of Defense, the cemetery was disabled.

This post has been edited by 21 inf on February 16, 2010 08:26 pm

Hello again,

Sorry for the delay of the answer, but I spend time to look in the archives for French regiments in Oradea in 1919.

21 inf : You were right, so far I find no French regiments positionned in Oradea. The French army group called ''Armee de Hongrie'' was deployed in Timisoara, Szeged, Arad, Lugoj.... No presence northen than these location.

They are only two options for the presence of French soldiers in Oradea :

- French officers and soldiers (few) among the Romanian regiments as military advisors (most of the Romanian regiments had French military advisors),

- French POW (mostly troops from French Morocco) who died in German labor camps located in Romania (Slobozia, Alexandria, some in Transilvania). They were used on field labor (harvesting etc..) Most of them died during spring 1918.

FYI Some reports of the G.Q.G. of the ''Armee de Hongrie'' mentioned the brave attitude of the romanian soldiers during the fight against the hungarian bolchevick troops.



Meanwhile, if there is any interest for the people from this forum, I put online the records of Romanian citizen who joined the French Army and died for France during WW1 -

http://picasaweb.google.com/11138874284167...chArmy19141918#

it's in french, you have the name, surname (most of the time, the name changed and become more french then romanian), you will find their regiment, place of birth, and when and where they died. I gather 5 or 6 records. If you are interested I can put much more online.

Once again thank you to Devin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers.

sorry mispelling :

Once again thank you to Kevin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers.

instead of

Once again thank you to Devin. Thanks for your pictures of the graves, we identified some soldiers.

Mike,

You are more than welcome, its our duty to remember them.

Will the pictures be uploaded to the French website?

Kevin in Deva.

The website memorial GenWeb accepts only general pictures of the graveyard. I send the one you took. If it's okay with you I will upload the individual tombs in a personal webpage. I hope to be able to put all graves of French soldiers in Romania. So far I have Bucarest and Alexandria.If anyone has pictures from other place .....