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Defender of Aiur |
Posted: October 24, 2003 02:28 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 10 Member No.: 104 Joined: September 14, 2003 |
I haven't seen one yet (except the ones at http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/romania...ania-tanks.html, but those are very small and low quality). Perhaps some of you could share one or two good photos ? :?:
LOOK AT THAT ARMORED COLUMN WITH SdKfz 251 TOO ! :shock: (edit: these are the photos I mentioned earlier, from http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/romania...nia-tanks.html) |
dragos |
Posted: October 24, 2003 10:54 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
I believe the armored column is German.
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MaxFax |
Posted: May 02, 2005 04:07 pm
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 255 Member No.: 7 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
I would like to reopen this quite forgotten topic.
Even on the worldwar2.ro website there are NO photos with Romanian Stug III !! Are there SO rare ?! Just a 3D color profile, taken I think form Modelism Int. magazine. http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=64§ion=19&article=243 Is this profile correct ?! I mean color and Zimmerit ?! |
mihai |
Posted: May 14, 2005 12:30 pm
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 450 Member No.: 30 Joined: July 08, 2003 |
No,4 photos is German Stug with Rumanianoffices,I have a copy from Bundesarchiv,Koblenz,Germany.
Mihai |
MaxFax |
Posted: May 14, 2005 03:37 pm
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Plutonier Group: Members Posts: 255 Member No.: 7 Joined: June 18, 2003 |
Great !! Could you share it with us ?! I supose the quality is much better as these photos here ... |
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sid guttridge |
Posted: May 28, 2005 10:14 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 862 Member No.: 591 Joined: May 19, 2005 |
Hi Guys,
The second photo, with a number "4" at the top left, showing Romanian infantry on a StuG.III, is actually of a German vehicle. I have seen it in an old Squadron/Signal book on the StuG.III. In that publication one can see more clearly that the central figure standing in a hatch (presumably the vehicle commander) is German. Cheers, Sid. |
nox |
Posted: August 11, 2005 07:35 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 92 Member No.: 642 Joined: August 07, 2005 |
some informations: "At least 120 German StuG III assault guns were included in arms shipments scheduled for delivery to Romania between November 1943 and September 1944, of which 108 appear to have been received. In Romanian service these vehicles carried the designation TA, ten operating with the ad hoc Cantemir Armoured Group as early as February 1944 and later with the reconstituted 1st Armoured Division. By the summer of 1944 this formation had some twenty-two TA's in service plus another sixteen in transit from training elements attached to the German 20th Panzer Division. Seven more TA's, with more in transit, had been received by the Romanian 8th Cavalry Division which was in the process of reforming into the 2nd Armoured Division. Fighting against Soviet forces in the summer of 1944 cost the Romanians a number of these TA's, while most or all of those in transit were confiscated by the Germans following the Armistice of 23rd August 1944. TA's served with Romanian forces during the liberation campaign against German and Hungarian forces following the Armistice, with ten providing the backbone of the Niculescu Armoured Detachment formed from the 1st Armoured Division's training depot. Subsequent fighting in northern Transylvania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Austria resulted in the loss of nearly all TA's in Romanian service despite reinforcements of a handful of captured StuG III's received from the Soviet Army at this time. With recovery and salvage efforts conducted at the end of the war, thirty-one TA's returned to Romanian strength to serve into the postwar era." New pictures and infos are always welcomed! I'm looking for a bookshop where I could buy "Armata Romana 1941-1945", RAI, Bucharest 1996" as Pascal |
dragos |
Posted: August 11, 2005 10:59 am
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 2397 Member No.: 2 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
The US Tank Battles in Germany 1944-45 by Concord Publications makes the same mistake as another foreign publication on the painting schemes of Romanian armor during the anti-Axis campaign, as discussed here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2058. The star painted inside the white circle is khaki, not red.
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nox |
Posted: August 11, 2005 11:14 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 92 Member No.: 642 Joined: August 07, 2005 |
Yes, but Concord Publications have pictures. I would like to make an R2 in 1945 with markings, but I'm looking again a picture I hope that one day a romanian publisher will do a book on romanian afv with pictures.
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nox |
Posted: September 26, 2005 08:12 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 92 Member No.: 642 Joined: August 07, 2005 |
german stug with rumanian crew |
sid guttridge |
Posted: September 26, 2005 12:46 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 862 Member No.: 591 Joined: May 19, 2005 |
Hi Nox,
Many of the PzKpfw.IV tanks and Stug.III self propelled guns supplied to Romania in 1944 were apparently second-hand German vehicles handed over by German divisions in the theatre. This might explain the German marking. Cheers, Sid. |
Victor |
Posted: September 26, 2005 01:56 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
nox, please don't forget to mention sources for the photo.
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nox |
Posted: September 26, 2005 03:42 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 92 Member No.: 642 Joined: August 07, 2005 |
I always put the source on the photograph
the picture come from Motorbuch Sturmgeshuetze Entwicklung und Fertigung der s Pak p231 |
nox |
Posted: November 22, 2005 01:15 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 92 Member No.: 642 Joined: August 07, 2005 |
new picture again
source tankomaster thanks to my friend Vasily |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 02:26 pm
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Host Group: Hosts Posts: 2328 Member No.: 144 Joined: November 17, 2003 |
Good job to find it. |
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