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Posted: August 21, 2007 11:52 am
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QUOTE (ANDI @ June 18, 2007 07:33 pm)
Another trip to the Campulung Muscel nearby hills...found this fuze cca. 5cm in diameter, visible markings, my guess is that it's a german time fuze for a shrapnell round.

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I have found some documentation concerning this tipe of fuze and markings, also for other types of ammo, here:
http://humanbonb.free.fr/indexFuseedobus.html

LWM - comes from : leichte wurfmine (light mortar shell)
Z.dr 2 - comes from: zunder (fuze) for 76mm shell

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Posted: August 21, 2007 01:32 pm
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Hello there, a friend of mine has found a bullet, he found it his garden, in Ploiesti. Any ideeas what could it be?
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Posted: August 21, 2007 02:23 pm
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It could be a little "souvenir" from Tidal wave tongue.gif
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Posted: August 21, 2007 09:45 pm
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QUOTE (ANDI @ October 20, 2005 10:58 am)
And a interesting 30cm piece of a 8mm Steyr m95 rifle (or maybe m88).
I say interesting becouse it seems to have been cut. There are some saw marks on it. My guess is that, at some point, the rifle was found by a local and in order to make it shorter (and easier to hide) cut it.
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Old subject but I think I found a interesting detail regarding this rifle barrel, it's from a Mannlicher M95 Short Rifle (not carbine) but the fact that somebody cut 30cm off a 100cm rifle makes you wander what was the use of such a small rifle rolleyes.gif as with a 20cm barrel it was a very close range hand gun.

See here in the bottom of the page: http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Mann95.htm
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Posted: August 22, 2007 06:04 am
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You might be right and I am more than sure that this "operation" took place after the war and it was made by the locals who wandered this battleplaces looking for "leftovers".
Many of them actually helped the army, during the war, to carry ammo and rifle crates to hide-outs (forgotten places by now..) and many of these areas were shepherds areas before and after the war, so it makes sence.
I reckon these remote places were littered with war relics,even long after the war.
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Posted: August 26, 2007 03:38 pm
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Well, I was on the leave for a few weeks so I took the opportunity to visit some other ww1 battlefields.
I have encountered a local squirmish area, near the road, on Topolog valley, Arges county. These places have seen some heavy fightings in the autumn of 1916, between Mosoiu-Cihoski brigades (romanian 23rd infantry division) and the advancing austro-hungarian, 2nd mountain brigade.

Some mixed spent cartridges and empty clips, romanian and austro-hungarian. I think this place was the scene of some heavy close range fightings...
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Posted: August 26, 2007 03:40 pm
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I reckon this is another type of a diaphragm from a shrapnell shell. It was 63mm in diameter.
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Posted: August 26, 2007 03:43 pm
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Again some spent cartridges. Among them, an old m78 Henry-Martini cartridge, from the militia troops.

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Posted: August 26, 2007 03:50 pm
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Some romanian and austro-hungarian live cartridges.

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Posted: August 26, 2007 03:53 pm
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Old barbed wire, "caught" by the growing trees...time had passed....
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Posted: August 26, 2007 04:01 pm
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A french F1 model 1915 hand grenade, live and deadly...left untouched.

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Posted: August 26, 2007 04:06 pm
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Meters away, one brass cover for the short type percussion fuze from a F1 french grenade. It was 30mm long and 15mm in diameter.

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Info and pictures from here:
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Posted: August 26, 2007 04:09 pm
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And a lonely steel case - AKM ammo smile.gif ...very corroded.

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Posted: August 27, 2007 06:29 am
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QUOTE (ANDI @ August 26, 2007 04:01 pm)
A french F1 model 1915 hand grenade, live and deadly...left untouched.


What did you did about the live handgrenade?
Did you alerted the authorities? Because other people, not being aware about the danger, could posibly detonate it...
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Posted: August 27, 2007 07:39 am
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QUOTE (21 inf @ August 27, 2007 06:29 am)
QUOTE (ANDI @ August 26, 2007 04:01 pm)
A french F1 model 1915 hand grenade, live and deadly...left untouched.


What did you did about the live handgrenade?
Did you alerted the authorities? Because other people, not being aware about the danger, could posibly detonate it...

Of course I did. Especially becouse it was in the path of the shepherds...
I have also talked with locals and they said that unexploded ordonance like shells are quite often discovered but grenades are rarely and the region was "combed" a long time ago, in the '60es. Back then, they said that everything that was discovered safe or exploded (empty shrapnell shells, empty grenades, etc) was left on the spot...
That is how they remembered, hard to tell if it is the real thing though...
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