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Radub
Posted: November 09, 2005 10:21 am
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To some extent, you are right Cantacuzino.
I just had a look in the book "Vanatorul IAR80 - Istoria unui erou necunoscut" by Dan Antoniu and George Cicos (Modelism, 2000). On page 46, there is a description of the system fitted for opening the canopy beginning with the Series 241 aircraft. The reason quoted was that at speeds exceeding 250Km/h, the canopy could no longer be opened. To assist the pilot in opening the canopy, a pneumatic piston was fitted to the rear canopy guide rod (that "third rod" placed inside the fuselage) which slid the canopy back on its rods. However, there is a proviso in the text: in case of pneumatic system failure or damage to the rails, this "power-assisted" opening system was useless.
In my opnion, the perfect solution would have been to fit some sort of quick release mechanism (either explosive bolts or a mecahanical catch) to jettison the canopy by separating the rods from the fuselage.
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Posted: November 09, 2005 10:39 am
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However, there is a proviso in the text: in case of pneumatic system failure or damage to the rails, this "power-assisted" opening system was useless.
In my opnion, the perfect solution would have been to fit some sort of quick release mechanism (either explosive bolts or a mecahanical catch) to jettison the canopy by separating the rods from the fuselage.
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In my opinion the perfect solution would have been the ejection seat. biggrin.gif

Radub, don't forget that IAR 80 was a 1938 design and obsolete in '43-'44. The hidraulic piston release sistem was only an easy compromise. The starting production of Bf-109 at IAR Brasov was more important than developing sofisticated canopy releasing devices for the obsolete IAR 80-81.

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Posted: November 09, 2005 07:46 pm
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Now I understand, but I was rather surprised to read you earlier saying that the fault was the shape of the canopy.


Carol but I didn't say that blink.gif or at least that is not what I intented to let you understand... aparently there was a missunderstanding smile.gif
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Posted: November 09, 2005 08:23 pm
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Now I understand, but I was rather surprised to read you earlier saying that the fault was the shape of the canopy.


Carol but I didn't say that blink.gif or at least that is not what I intented to let you understand... aparently there was a missunderstanding smile.gif

Then probably I misunderstood you. wink.gif
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Posted: November 12, 2005 04:17 am
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Here is a note found in an I.A.R.-Brasov document, dated 12 Dec. 1942:
"Difficulty was experienced in opening the I.A.R. 80's cockpit canopy at speeds higher than 350 km/h. Therefore currently work is being done in designing a new canopy, which has flat sides, which can be opened in need. Parallel to this, work is also being done on a system, which opens the canopy with the help of compressed air."

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