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Dénes |
Posted: November 22, 2005 02:37 am
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I hopped on my time machine and snapped a photo so the airplane's wings would be visible. It turned out that the Rumanian mechanics didn't even bother to paint over the Balkenkreuz on the wings with the same white paint! They simply painted the ARR roundels besides the Luftwaffe markings, covering it only partially (see scan). It's yet another fine example why logic doesn't always work when dealing with history. It's the documents, photos and other primary sources one should base his judgement upon... Gen. Dénes This post has been edited by Dénes on November 22, 2005 02:39 am |
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Dénes |
Posted: November 22, 2005 02:42 am
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Here is another photo of the well-worn 'Yellow 14' with the same mystery pilot riding on it.
It turns out that he is squadron commander Lt. av. Mircea "Shoto" Teodorescu of Gr. 1 vân. Gen. Dénes P.S. By looking at this photo, I am wondering if the airplane's fuselage, around and under the cockpit, was overpainted with light grey or white since the photo with Stinghe in the cockpit was taken... This post has been edited by Dénes on November 22, 2005 02:45 am |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 06:47 am
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I said I wanted an onest debate not simple eye critics (easy for 4 years old boy). I posted this color profile for some time and you didn't contribute from the begin with data and info (that you allready have it). You just waited that sombody else was interested and asked questions about more details for the plane( not for the artwork) and you start critics the artwork instead to tell Radu that you have more pictures and data for this Bf-109 that will help him for the next project. This kind of behavior it's not an onest issue. This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 22, 2005 03:20 pm |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 06:53 am
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If somebody keep in safe place the proof (the picture) and don't like to show them from the begin . This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 22, 2005 07:00 am |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 07:16 am
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Host Group: Hosts Posts: 2328 Member No.: 144 Joined: November 17, 2003 |
I just offer Radu another alternative for better color profile artworks for romanian Bf 109G on west front based on the fact that author of the book was better historically documented. The color profile painter use the info given by the book author and not from the editor. Anyway i will remove and start a new thread for this nice "yellow 3 " with an onest debate for the artwork using valid proof ( could be an alternative for Radu future project) |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 07:26 am
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Host Group: Hosts Posts: 2328 Member No.: 144 Joined: November 17, 2003 |
Believe it or not. Like it or not. It's a part from a modeller life. The historically part some times is boring with out the flashing color artworks of the wonderfull artists like Watanabe, James Dietz, Thiery Decker and so on. Allways the dream of a modeller start with pilot stories and nice color profiles. This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 22, 2005 08:31 am |
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Radub |
Posted: November 22, 2005 09:37 am
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Thanks Canatcuzino and Denes, the photos you added in the meantime are excellent.
After looking at the photos, I noticed that "something is going on" around the nose panels: there are obvious colour differences demarcated by the panel lines. Engine cowls have a mottle pattern that is different from that of the fuselage. The panel above the gun breeches appears to be one single dark colour and again does not match any of the adjacent colurs. I believe that these were cannibalised from another airframe. The picture that shows the upper surfaces is interesting too: Note the right wingtip painted white. Note that the left wing flap appears to be a replacement. This is a Frankenschmitt! I love it. Radu |
Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 02:52 pm
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Both wingtips should be painted in white as ID markings used on west front. |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 03:03 pm
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Probably it's no more a G-2 now it turn out to be an upgraded version to G-4 standard and found in documents as "Frankenschmitt 109 G-4" ( with new wires and switches from canibalised G-4 and G-6) |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 03:09 pm
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Radub |
Posted: November 22, 2005 04:48 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005 |
Hi Cantacuzino, You are right of course. What I meant was that only the wingtip was painted white - the white segment does not stretch over some of the aileron as was the norm. Pity none of the photos show the underside of the wingtip so that we could see how far inboard the white element stretches. Radu |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 11:42 pm
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 22, 2005 11:54 pm
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 23, 2005 12:03 am
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"Yellow 14" was in fact an ex 9/JG77 Bf-109 G-2 "Yellow 10" wnr.14638 damaged 40% in a crash landing S.E. Mizil on 18 january '44. The plane was the personal mount of Rolf Olejniczak with his girl friend name "Monika" written under the cokpit. After repair in ASAM it was delivered to romanian units. This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 23, 2005 11:16 am |
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Cantacuzino |
Posted: November 23, 2005 12:09 am
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