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Posted: January 04, 2006 10:04 am
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In the article in romanian found at
http://www.itcnet.ro/history/archive/mi200...rrent1/mi49.htm
is a brief mention of a short romanian campaign in Pocutia in the benefit of Poland
"scurta interventie a trupelor sale în Pocutia a asigurat spatele frontului polonez în fata amenintarii bolsevice"
Any info about that?
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Posted: January 04, 2006 12:46 pm
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Can you give us the English version of "Pocutia" region? Personally, I don't know off hand where it is.

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Posted: January 04, 2006 01:42 pm
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"Pocutia" is I believe a part of Galicia. It was a region which Wladislaw Jagiello used to guarantee a loan he took from Alexander the Good. The money were never returned and Stephen the Great eventually took the territory by force in the last years of his reign. Petru Rares also fought over it and lost it after Obertyn, IIRC.

Kosmo, there is a description of the events through the eyes of a Ukranian member on the 1. Jagdmoroner Abteilung forum.

http://www.1jma.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5276
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Kosmo
Posted: January 04, 2006 03:20 pm
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Thank you Victor, the link was great. Very nice to find out more about this smaller campaigns that are not remembered. Russia was a confusing mess at the time and the short mention in "Magazin Istoric" was talking about bolshevics, but it seems that were ukrainian nationalists.
I knew about medieval Pocutia links to Moldova. I'm not sure, but I believe that Alexandru cel Bun was the first to take it after he became bitter with his polish sovereign.

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Posted: January 04, 2006 06:05 pm
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They called them Bolsheviks probably because they didn't know who was actually in control of the region and it was easier to designate them as such. I would be curious to reada Romanian/Polish version of the events, not just the Ukarnian one.
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Posted: January 04, 2006 07:04 pm
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Here is what Mr. Dan Grecu wrote about this lesser known event in Pokutia, in his philatelic site:

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On Saturday, May 24, 1919, the Ukrainian army left Kolomyia and two days later the entire Pokutia area was occupied by the Romanian Army. On June 12, 1919 the Kolomyia post office re-opened for civilians. However, postal traffic was very limited during the occupation. On June 14, 1919 the overprinted "C.M.T." (= Comandamentul Militar Teritorial) stamps & postcards were introduced in some post offices (Kolomyia, Peczenizyn, Zabiorow, Obertyn, Sniatyn, Horodenka, at least). On August 20, 1919 the unsold postal matters were withdrawn in Kolomyia. On August 21, 1919 the evacuation of the Romanian Army began and in the meantime, the Polish army took over the Pokutia territory.

[http://membres.lycos.fr/dgrecu/bibPoc.html]

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Posted: January 04, 2006 07:07 pm
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Below is the 1662 Map of Pokutia.
Based on this map, it appears that part of Bukovina is actually part of Pokutia as well! ohmy.gif

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Posted: January 05, 2006 01:44 pm
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The resolution is too small to be sure about it.
When Austria took Bucovina from Moldova it did so because they said Bucovina is part of Pocutia!
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Posted: December 07, 2007 08:45 pm
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For Kosmo,
A Romanian division had to advance in order to support the Polish army fighting against Ukrainian Reds. Other Romanian divisions had to do the same thing for the Czech. By doing so, Romanian army blocked the gap where Lenin and his cronies wanted to shake hands with Bela Kun's divisions in order to build the Red axis from Moscow to Berlin via Budapest. Step by step, Lenin's and Kohn (Kun)'s dreams were destroyed. Firstly when the Spartakists (Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht) were eliminated by the Freikorps, and later the decisive intervention of Romanian army, the only one still apt to fight. Few people take into account the huge number of deserters and soldiers fed up with war from both sides, lots of mutinies everywhere (the French court martialled them by the hundreds, same thing the Germans did).
So, Pocutia had to be pacified for a short time by the Romanians (including the Hutsul Republic) and handed over afterwards at the official request made by the new Polish government.
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