Romanian Military History Forum - Part of Romanian Army in the Second World War Website



  Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

> elicopter?
horia
Posted: January 22, 2006 01:29 pm
Quote Post


Capitan
*

Group: Members
Posts: 693
Member No.: 529
Joined: February 28, 2005



a friend of mine gave me a Cd with picture made be him and i found the picture below. sould someone tell me more about this tipe of helicopter in Romania air forces. how many, where he was used(navy?) and since when?
user posted image
PMEmail Poster
Top
C-2
Posted: January 22, 2006 01:44 pm
Quote Post


General Medic
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2453
Member No.: 19
Joined: June 23, 2003



Aluet -Sud I belive...
PMUsers Website
Top
Cantacuzino
Posted: January 22, 2006 02:19 pm
Quote Post


Host
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2328
Member No.: 144
Joined: November 17, 2003



QUOTE
a friend of mine gave me a Cd with picture made be him and i found the picture below. sould someone tell me more about this tipe of helicopter in Romania air forces. how many, where he was used(navy?) and since when?


It is an Allouette II.
The picture was taken at Otopeni Aviation Museum.
PM
Top
Dénes
Posted: January 22, 2006 02:46 pm
Quote Post


Admin
Group Icon

Group: Admin
Posts: 4368
Member No.: 4
Joined: June 17, 2003



Yes, it's an Alouette II. AFAIK, there were 2 in Rumanian service. Ceausescu had one. This could probably be that one.

Gen. Dénes
PMEmail PosterUsers Website
Top
C-2
Posted: January 22, 2006 08:05 pm
Quote Post


General Medic
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2453
Member No.: 19
Joined: June 23, 2003



One of the two crached when the pilots played with him.
No casualties.
Lucky guys.
PMUsers Website
Top
Zapacitu
Posted: December 02, 2007 03:23 pm
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 49
Member No.: 1412
Joined: May 05, 2007



QUOTE (C-2 @ January 22, 2006 08:05 pm)
One of the two crached when the pilots played with him.
No casualties.
Lucky guys.

Any idea when did that happen and where? and what was the cause of the crash exactly?

I heard a rumor that Ceausescu refused to fly on this particular type (probably because it looked too fragile). Is there any truth to that?

This post has been edited by Zapacitu on December 02, 2007 03:23 pm
PMEmail Poster
Top
lancer_two_one
Posted: February 24, 2008 05:52 am
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 28
Member No.: 1625
Joined: October 09, 2007



There were more than 2 Allouette II in Ro. I can not recall exactly, most likely around 4 if not 6. They entered in Ro inventory sometimes mid or in the second half of the sixties. They flew with RoAF and Special Aviation Unit of the Ro Ministry of Interior. I can not say when they've been withdrawn from service (mid seventies, maybe) but in the eighties none was flying anymore.

I can not comment on the rumor reproduced by Zapacitu. What I can say is that it is in every VIP organization practice to avoid flying single engined aircraft (either fixed or rotary wing). Ro was no exception.

Sorin

PMEmail Poster
Top
C-2
Posted: February 27, 2008 09:09 pm
Quote Post


General Medic
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2453
Member No.: 19
Joined: June 23, 2003



I talked yesterday to a former pilot of ceausescu.
He said that he did flew the Alu. till 74,75 ,when he got his Dauphine.
I also asked about the one/two eng. question.He said that it is forbiden for single eng aicrafts to fly over crowded aries.
PMUsers Website
Top
lancer_two_one
Posted: March 10, 2008 02:29 am
Quote Post


Soldat
*

Group: Members
Posts: 28
Member No.: 1625
Joined: October 09, 2007



While "'74-'75" confirms my recollection (in my original message I indicated "mid seventies"), I'm not buying the other answer.

The reason the VIP flights (or if you want DIE flights [De Importanta Exceptionala= Of Exceptionally Importance]) were not performed in single engined aircraft (be it fixed or rotary wing), was not the concern regarding the overflown areas. The reason was that a multi-engined aircraft provided a better margin of safety in the unlikely event of o propulsion problem.

There was/is a restriction to fly over crowded areas for all aircraft (some areas are forbidden to be overflown at all, while for other areas there's an AGL limitation), however at times not one, but formations of MiGs and IAR-316Bs (Allouettes) were low passing over crowded areas, including over Mr. C. The situation to be avoided was to have him in a single engine aircraft in the air, not on the ground under a flying single engined aircraft or aircraft formation.

And about Dauphine, it was not one, there were four (201-204).

Sorin
PMEmail Poster
Top
cainele_franctiror
Posted: March 23, 2008 05:08 pm
Quote Post


Sublocotenent
*

Group: Members
Posts: 449
Member No.: 334
Joined: September 01, 2004



There were only two Allouette II in Romania since 1970, and Ceausescu wasn't interested to fly with this. Anyway, the white Mi 8 from the photo belonged to Ceausescu. There were, ideed, four Dauphine, and, I guess, two of them still flying with SRI pilots. The number 202 was the famous one who helped Ceausescu to left the CC building on december 22nd, 1989.
PM
Top
C-2
Posted: March 23, 2008 05:56 pm
Quote Post


General Medic
Group Icon

Group: Hosts
Posts: 2453
Member No.: 19
Joined: June 23, 2003



Ceaus. did use teh Alu till the Daup. came.
I know a pilot who flew him quite a lot with the Alu.
PMUsers Website
Top
cainele_franctiror
Posted: March 23, 2008 06:24 pm
Quote Post


Sublocotenent
*

Group: Members
Posts: 449
Member No.: 334
Joined: September 01, 2004



He used Allouette III
PM
Top
cainele_franctiror
Posted: July 27, 2008 08:57 pm
Quote Post


Sublocotenent
*

Group: Members
Posts: 449
Member No.: 334
Joined: September 01, 2004



With Allouette III a pilot had an accident, landing in water, maybe in a river.
PM
Top
Jeroen
Posted: April 13, 2009 10:09 am
Quote Post


Caporal
*

Group: Members
Posts: 119
Member No.: 2449
Joined: April 13, 2009



ciao cainele franctiror!

What is your source that it was dauphin 202?
I always believed it was 203 that was piloted by Vasile Malutan?

best wishes
Jeroen
PMEmail Poster
Top
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

Topic Options Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll

 






[ Script Execution time: 0.0108 ]   [ 14 queries used ]   [ GZIP Enabled ]