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Florin
Posted: December 11, 2003 05:51 am
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The Sturmgewehr 44 - this is the one you were talking about. There is also the 43 Model. MP stands for Machine-Pistole (Machine Pistol), and MG for Machinen-Gewehr. *** This was the best weapon of the Second World War - it had the accuracy and range of a Rifle in single shots and short bursts, combined with a large Magazine of rounds, and with very rapid fire.
Range, Accuracy, Large Magazine, Versatile and Lethal, simply the best.


About 250,000 pieces were built until the end of the war. Most of them were distributed on the Eastern Front.
Thus most of them were captured by the Russians, who gave many of them in the 50's to various Marxist and Communist guerilla groups.

Today they are very rare, and it is very difficult for collectors to get bulits for them.

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Posted: October 01, 2004 03:28 pm
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QUOTE (Der Maresal @ Sep 19 2003, 06:12 PM)
What weapon is this one, being used here? It has a second wooden grip forward as well as a sliver metal muzzle, and it neither lookls like the Ak-47 nor the SAR-1.

The weapon is a PA md 1986(pusca automata md.86-assault rifle md.86),the romanian version of AK 74. The romanian army can use now,if is in NATO, a rifle produced in our country,in calibre of 5.56mm ,romanian counterpart of AK 101(iugoslavians,polish etc.,have to weapons inspired by AK and have 5.56 mm ).I strong believe the AK still remain the most reliable weapon,especially in a long and hard fightes.
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Posted: October 01, 2004 08:37 pm
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QUOTE (C-2 @ Sep 20 2003, 12:10 AM)
If someone can put on this forum a picture of a MP44/STG44 so everyone will know the the AK was copied from the Germans.

Although they make look similar on the outside, on the inside there are two totally different things. The AK-47 has a rotating bolt, while the StG-44 has a tilting bolt.
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Posted: February 04, 2005 03:40 pm
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QUOTE (Florin @ Dec 11 2003, 05:51 AM)
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The Sturmgewehr 44 - this is the one you were talking about. There is also the 43 Model. MP stands for Machine-Pistole (Machine Pistol), and MG for Machinen-Gewehr. *** This was the best weapon of the Second World War - it had the accuracy and range of a Rifle in single shots and short bursts, combined with a large Magazine of rounds, and with very rapid fire.
Range, Accuracy, Large Magazine, Versatile and Lethal, simply the best.


About 250,000 pieces were built until the end of the war. Most of them were distributed on the Eastern Front.
Thus most of them were captured by the Russians, who gave many of them in the 50's to various Marxist and Communist guerilla groups.

Today they are very rare, and it is very difficult for collectors to get bulits for them.

Florin

As far as you know, have any StG 44 been supplied to the Romanian Army? If so, when and by whom?
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Posted: February 05, 2005 07:31 am
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There were some StG 44 captured and used by Romanian troops in Czechoslovakia. There is a photo published with an infantry sergeant holding his StG 44. However, Germany did not supply such weapons to Romania. Also I don't think that the Romanian army received any number of these weapons from the captured stocks of the Soviets, as it would have been at least one on display in the Military Museum.
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Posted: February 06, 2007 11:52 pm
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The second wooden grip on the Romanian AK’s was not design with carrying comfort in mind (as Dr V presumed). The idea behind it is to offer a better grip on the forward handle hence less weapon jolts during automatic fire. The AK was primarily designed as an automatic assault rifle, a infantryman weapon able to deliver a great amount of bullets to the enemy in a short time, not as a single shot one. On that purpose you could use a carbine. The problem occuring during automatic fire (especially when using 7,62x39 ammo) stays in the medium/high recoil force, resulting in a higher degree of bullets dispersal.To reduce that a better grip (and the best one is the vertical grip) is a must. The Romanian style grip offers more retaining force during weapon jolts than the standard one.
About the way it looks, I think it’s not relevant when better use of a weapon is the issue that matters.
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