New Romanian 9mm Handgun?, Carpati/TT Replacement

Yes. XD40.

CZ-75, you mean...

Well the Tangpolio is a copy of the CZ,that's true,but the IMI got the licence from the Italians..
When the IMI started building the Jeriho,the cold war was still going on.
So no colaboration with CZ.

I just want to say the correct name is Tangfoglio and this is a Browning Petter operated gun-that means is blowback operated .
In these days most of the sidearms are Browning or its derivatives operating principle guns.
The gas operated sidearms ,such as Makarov and Stechkin are quite different in terms of operating principles.
Same ,the obsolete Romanian Carpati,known as a model74 is a non efficient weapon mainly because of the way is chambered -the .32 ACP ammo being inadequate.
So maybe the Romanian Police would decide to change the weapons before is too late.

Well, thank you very much for that history lesson.

As for the little Carpati, it was already obsolete(for its intended purpose) from its begginings in the 1970s, so I can say it is kinda' late already...
You mentioned the Makarov, not a bad hangun at all, too bad it uses a hard to find caliber(here, not in Russia).

Just as curiosity, would it matter if it would use different ammo , like hollow point bulets (I think most of the law enforcing agencies use this kind of ammo)?

.32 acp lacks penetrating power, hollow-point or no. Not a chambering I'd want to carry for service use, but if it's what you have

From what i heard, the problem with Carpati was the lack of stoping power , not penetrating power . Supposelly Police fire more shoots at perpetuators withut any visible sign on them.

I was for a long time commisioned officer in a special unit of the Ministry of Interior,so I had the 74,the Makarov,the Steckin ,the Glock-in Kosovo,and lately the L.P.5.
I consider Glock 17, 9 mil,the one I had the most efficient weapon .
Of course we can talk about better weapons such as Sig Sauer 226 or HK USP ,but as you know the price is the difference.And in Romania ,money is the main reason when it comes about purchasing weapons.
I live now in North America and I can tell you between the police members of this continent and the Romanian police members the difference is not related to their skills necessarily but to their equipment and weapons and also to their mentality.
I met here officers far below the romanian ones in terms of physical prep,general awareness but like I mentioned the system is the most relevant.
It creates the difference.
Secondly I would like tell you that here the special units keep a very low profile and here I am talking about all the units using ballaclavas or others special purposes items such as holsters,tactical holsters ,special goggles,forearm prots.That compared to Romania is ,or should I say was odd to me especially because I was a member of a special unit and I used the ballaclava,and tactical holster and 12 gauge shotgun by all means.
Like I said here is normality.
Keep in touch.

No hardfeelings Suburban.
Right?
The point is as was trained for a long time in weaponry,somewhere abroad,so I can say nowadays I know about them.

Please do not take this as an offense, but you must not judge a book by its covers. Since you mentioned you were a member of a special unit (GIGN, or perhaps you have trained with them, so I am merely speculating here, please correct me if I am wrong), you must certainly know that there are Romanian units that are using this kind of specialised equipment, and this since the 80's.

Basically, the Romanian CT structure is very well organised, despite the fact that the latest internal events seems to make the contrary of what I am saying. Starting from the early 70s and well into the 80s, the Romanian CT branch of the MAI developed smoothly, with aid from Israel and China. So, in terms of CT, we are not so feeble as others see us.

Oh, and believe me, I am speaking from experience also. I can give you some details via PM if you'd like.

Best Regards,

Al

PS - please consider this offtopic remark as a secondary opinion towards its main subject. The point is that the Romanian army, police and interieur forces are developing also in term of weaponry, and they are not so feeble as seen by others.

This post has been edited by Alexei2102 on July 24, 2006 03:43 pm

I think you misunderstood my saying.As a matter of fact I did say in Romania ,units are well developped and they use somehow in excess the gear .This compared to american reality where the public is very sensitive when it comes to this kind of society issues solving approach.
Though, Alexei ,thank you very much for the message which is according to my opinion very professional.
Respectfully.
Et in Arcadia ego-Myself,I was a captain in a special brach in Romania.A time ago.

Now I fully understand what you have meant to say, and I fully agree with everything you have said. It has been a pleasure meeting you.

Alex

Thank you very much ,Sir.
Much appreciate.

Hardfeelings...for what? c'mon...
However, it is wise for people who have worked in this field to not bragg about their line of work. All the people that I know in this special branch of Law Enforcement(including someone who now works as a Canada Firearms training officer), WILL NOT talk about it in public(specially not on a puplic forum). Oddly enough you do...which makes me wonder... Now thank Heavens, your are well informed.
But since I am not a member of any special units in Law Enforcement, I will let you know that I have collected firearms for a few good years now and fired most types of calibers, in modern handguns; and also located in North America.
We should chat a bit on PM

I was never a military in North America.I just relocated there.
I quited my branch in order to relocate.
Anyways,information disclosed is irrelevant.Classified information is not to be disclosed by me.And there s some.
Take care.

Well informed ,from my point of view sounds like an insult.Hope is not.