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SiG |
Posted: May 20, 2006 01:55 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 86 Member No.: 616 Joined: June 29, 2005 |
Check out this link: Armata Romana si SRI au vrut sa ocupe pe sest Insula Serpilor
A short summary for non-romanian speaking members: Apparently, around 1999-2001 there was a plan to capture the Snake Island by Romanian commandos.The island was defended at that time by 155 men, of which only 30 were really soldiers. The Romanian planners expected that the Ukrainians would be unable to react agresively once the fait accompli. However, Russian and Ukrainian secret services learned about this and threatened with serious reprisals, so the operation was cancelled. What do you think about this. True of journalistic sensationalism? |
C-2 |
Posted: May 20, 2006 01:58 pm
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
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Imperialist |
Posted: May 20, 2006 03:04 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
Journalist IQ alert, journalist IQ alert! Una e "a incerca" alta "a avea intentia de...".
Officially Ukraine was supposed to give back all nuclear weapons by 1996. Does it mean they still had them in 1999-2001, or today? Anyway, if the journalist had access to the declassified document, he should tell us how did SRI plan to hang on to the island after the easy conquest. And if they planned this, could there be a plan to sabotage the work on Ukraine's Bastroe canal? I wonder how that would look like. edit -- now you see why we need a nuclear submarine in the Black Sea! This post has been edited by Imperialist on May 20, 2006 03:06 pm -------------------- I
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SiG |
Posted: May 20, 2006 03:39 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 86 Member No.: 616 Joined: June 29, 2005 |
That would involve sending Romanian workers to do the job. Like the ones that worked at the BCU in the 90's or those who completed the subway stations. |
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Iamandi |
Posted: May 22, 2006 02:45 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004 |
Sounds like a crazy ideea this with Snake Island, but i'm sure it was in realitty something. Maybe, one chief (maybe a president) asked - how we could retake the Snake Island and one of the answers was a military action and this was the secret planning.
I bet one thing: Argentina had a lot of them to retake the Malvinas. Just in case... Maybe USA had plans to occupy the United Kingdom. Just in case, of course... Iama |
Hadrian |
Posted: February 03, 2009 07:38 pm
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Sergent major Group: Members Posts: 245 Member No.: 875 Joined: April 09, 2006 |
http://www.infomondo.ro/justitie/4072-succ...mrii-negre.html
Not right on the topic but connected... Looks like we mostly won. The International Justice court gave to Romania 79% from the disputed continental plateau in Snake Island area. The area is expected to contain significant oil and natural gas reserves. This post has been edited by Hadrian on February 03, 2009 07:44 pm |
Imperialist |
Posted: February 03, 2009 08:58 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
The conflict was over the maritime boundary.
Here are the maps (source The Hague Tribunal): Romania can take advantage of this only if it moves fast. The oil and natural gas pockets are not so strictly delimited and they won't wait for us forever. Especially if Ukraine starts pumping on its side of the boundary. Unfortunately speedy action is not a trait in contemporary Romania. p.s. looking at the maps I'd say Romania got more like 60% of what it asked for. This post has been edited by Imperialist on February 03, 2009 09:00 pm -------------------- I
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Dénes |
Posted: February 03, 2009 09:26 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003 |
The Ucrainian press say they won:
http://www.gandul.info/puterea-gandului/ce...ml?4237;3857576 Gen. Dénes This post has been edited by Dénes on February 03, 2009 09:26 pm |
guina |
Posted: February 03, 2009 09:51 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 339 Member No.: 1393 Joined: April 16, 2007 |
An hour ago on russian Chanel 1,comentators presented the Court decission as a grave defeat for Ukraine that was not able to stand for what was rightfully theirs.
They also said,that the Court was biased towards Romania that has no historic right in this zone of Black Sea,but is a member of E.C. Morale:whithout Russia Ukraine is defensless. |
MMM |
Posted: February 08, 2009 08:31 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Actually, we won crap! Petrom and some other companies won. The Romanian state gets too little... This post has been edited by MMM on February 08, 2009 08:32 pm -------------------- M
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Imperialist |
Posted: February 08, 2009 09:30 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
We won a more advantageous maritime boundary and the neutralization of Ukraine's claims and efforts to make the Snakes' Island inhabitable. That was a big blow for Kiev. Now they can keep that piece of useless rock and build hotels on it. Good luck with that. -------------------- I
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MMM |
Posted: February 09, 2009 06:58 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
Right, I forgot that... I still don't want to go there...
By winning crap, I was referring to material profit, not diplomatic. I wonder whether those Soviets will still continue to bother us in the Danube Delta, however - you know, just to remind us who's bigger/stronger etc. [edited by admin] -------------------- M
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MMM |
Posted: February 09, 2009 07:01 pm
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General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Member No.: 2323 Joined: December 02, 2008 |
That reminds me of that old Khruschev's time joke, when USA was competing w/ USSR, and Pravda had to declare the Americans winners: Our national team classed on a very important second place, whereas the capitalist American barely managed to finish before the last contestant. Like that, Ukraine won, right? Or should I say "The Ukraine"? -------------------- M
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Victor |
Posted: February 09, 2009 07:25 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003 |
MMM, please watch your language.
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Imperialist |
Posted: February 09, 2009 08:35 pm
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General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2399 Member No.: 499 Joined: February 09, 2005 |
The Romanian state will still tax the companies that will drill there. -------------------- I
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