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This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on December 16, 2009 10:26 am

Teh coolest.

This is a known photo. Dan Scurtu is on the left.
Nice catch, though.

Gen. Dénes

http://www.mytex.ro/fapt-divers/fiecare-fo...esti_243597.php

Romanian Fokker D VII ex. Hungarian

That's a really nice one, Horia!

Gen. Dénes

Hi Denes, can you confirm to us that the plane use to have the marking from the photo i will atach. The photo is from Air Magazin no 19. tahnk you!



and onother one



This post has been edited by horia on January 09, 2010 10:17 am

I am not a fan of colour profiles. There is always somebody who would say, "no the hue (colour nuance) is not correct", and so on.

The colour of the Hungarian Red Air Force Fokker D.VIIs is described as "cream". Whatever than means...

Gen. Dénes

It means that all were doped fabric covered

Anyway the Fokkers D VII produced by M.A.G. , captured and used by romanians were 17 planes from series 93:
93.10, 93.11, 93.12, 93.13, 93.14, 93.15, 93.16, 93.17, 93.18, 93.19, 93.20, 93.21, 93.22, 93.23, 93.24, 93.25, 93.26.

Also 8 two seat Fokkers DVII were captured:
HD.01, HD.04, HD.05, HD.06, HD.07, HD.08, HD.09, HD.10.


HD.09 is pictured above in the accident of Jienescu and Nicolau.

Thank you Cantacuzino!

Eduard anounce that this may will be available a MAG Fokker D VII with romanian markins. So, i decide to send them a mail. Thank Cantacuzino for infos about D VII in romanian marking and Alexei fot jelp. This is the mail:

Hello.

My name is Horia Stoica, and I’ve decided to write you as soon as I found out that in May you will launch the Fokker D VII plane model with Romanian werknummer. The matriculation of the planes received by Romania as was damages poses many problems for researchers, and this is why mistakes are prone to happen in the werknummer interpretation. I am sure that you made your research before launching this model, but in spite of all this, because I want this product to be 100% historically accurate, I want to contribute with the information I possess in regards to the planes in Romanian service.

So, the Fokkers D VII produced by M.A.G. , captured and used by romanians. We are talking about 17 planes from series 93:
93.10, 93.11, 93.12, 93.13, 93.14, 93.15, 93.16, 93.17, 93.18, 93.19, 93.20, 93.21, 93.22, 93.23, 93.24, 93.25, 93.26. These serial numbers were painted on the plane’s sides, as yo can see in the attached images.

Also 8 two seat Fokkers DVII were captured:
HD.01, HD.04, HD.05, HD.06, HD.07, HD.08, HD.09, HD.10.

As a side note, we also are the editors of a modelism and military history magazine, called MODEL IST, whose purpose is to promote military history and particularly the Romanian Air Force. At the end of 2009 we managed to launch the monography of the IAR-Potez 25 plane in a bilingual (Romanian-English book).

We own a collection of about 2000 original fotos with the Romanian Air Force, and this is why, whenever you want to launch a new product who has strong ties with the Romanian Air Force, we will be more than happy to help you with original images.

With the hope that our message is of any help to you, we wish you godspeed in 2010, and we await more models with Romanian werknummers with the greatest of interest.

I just reciev 2 answers from Eduard. If anyone have aditional information please help me to gave them a corect infos. Here are the mails:

Dear Sir,



Thank you very much for your e-mail, it is coming in really right time! We are in final approach to release or Fokker D.VII MÁG, the release time is April this year.



Until now, our plan was to have two Romanian MÁGs in our marking options, as we have a documentation for two aircraft. However, when we will have more info, we will be glad to add more planes! Also, the painting instruction has to be done more complexly with widely described history of the aircraft, so if you can help us with history of the MÁGs in Romanian Air Force, it will be highly appreciated.



I have passed your letter to our WWI specialist, Mr.Marek Mincberger, who is preparing the painting instruction, the text for it and also the guide for the decal designer and artist. He will communicate with you concerning the technical and historical matter.



Also, let me know, please, what we have to pay you for your cooperation.



I’m looking forward for good cooperation! Thank you onece again for your offer.



Yours sincerely



Vladimir Sulc
CEO

Eduard MA





Dear Stoica,

thank you very much for your message concerning the Fokker D.VII MAG. As a person responsible for camouflage and marking preparation for this project I have found your mail very, very interesting. As a Czech company we are of course highly focused on the one and only Czech MAG - 38.67, which we have quite well covered. Further on we have some references for red Hungarian Fokkers. But for the Romanian, it is a different cup of tea. We have just three photos, which are attached. Nothing more - no more photo, no more info. So we would highly welcome anything.

Due to the construction of the model we are highly interested into the crates with covers on wheel spokes, but it is not limited to this. So, from this point of view the 93.18 could be the crate we we would mainly focus on. But not only this one.

If I could, I would have some questions:
- I assume, that the planes has been covered with clear doped linen. Am I correct?
- The white fields (ex-Hungarian) under the Romanian cockades were common issue or were they limited just to few planes and thers were not wearing them?
- Do you have an information about the crash of the 93.16?
- If the guns were installed, were they the original Shwarzelose or were they replaced by others? Vickers for example? But as it looks on the photo, no guns were installed at all...
- For the text part of the instruction guide we would welcome any information about the operational history of the MAGs, so if you could provide us any information about "your" Fokkers, we would welcome it. For example, how your army got them, when, where and by what unit were they than used, until when, etc. Generally, we know nothing. The only known here is that during the war with Red Hungarians, one MAG had been shot-up by Czechoslovakian ground fire, but the plane landed behind the Romanian front. But we have no confirmation from other sources.
- Would it be possible to provide us it some more photos, if available? As I have already mentioned, we are highly focused on 93.16 and 16, but we would welcome any.
- If you would be so glad to provide any photo, could we publish them in the instruction guide. With your full credit, of course?

We would like to thank you very much for you helpful hand.

Best regards

Marek Mincbergr

PS
I have very limited internet connection until the end of January (I am off), so I a sorry for my possible slow response.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/1676227/L/

Great photo!

What are you think, this romanian pilots are sitting next to a Sopwith Pup?


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