War in the middle east, why oh why?

I had no net for a few days...
Here are some facts;
Israel existed as a state since 1312 BC.2000 years before Islam.
2.The Palestinians became a nation in 1967,20 years after the new state of Israel.
3.Arabs ruled Israel for only 22 years.
4.The Jews from 1272BCfor 1000 years.And lived curently for 3300 years.
5.The word Jerusalem apears in the old testament 700 times.No one time in th ekoran.
6.King David buuilt Jerusalem.Mohamad never visited her.
7.When Jews are paraing the face Jerusalem.
When Muslims pray ,they face MEcca.
If they are between the two places trhey are with their back to Jerusalem.
8.68% of the Palestinian refugies never saw a Israeli soldier.
9.The jews originated from the arab states .left due to violences and pogroms.
10.In 1948 630.000 palestinian flee.
Also 630.000 jews came from Europe.
11. Since ww2 there were 100.000.000 refugies on the planet.
The Palestinians are the only one who never integrated anywhere.Even they have a lot of living space.
12.During Jordanian ocupation of Jerusalem and Betlehem,Christians could not visit the holy places.

This post has been edited by C-2 on August 26, 2006 02:27 pm

Imperialist ,
In 1972 Lebaneease soldiers fired on an Israeli bus full of children and killed about 30.
You are far away from being an expert.
Just making fun of yourself.

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All images taken at at peaceful Islamic demonstration in the Islamic republic of Bangaladesch (London).
People who imperialist and Florin love and are sorry for.

This post has been edited by C-2 on August 26, 2006 07:20 pm

Doves of prey

full article: http://metimes.com/articles/normal.php?Sto...25-031216-1361r

“By welcoming Turkey, we will demonstrate that Western and Islamic cultures can thrive together as partners in the modern world.” - British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8939/turkey...adcrumb=default

We've long believed, however, that Turkey's future is in Europe; it's in the strategic interest of the United States and the European Union, of Turkey and the European Union, that Turkey and the European Union build the closest possible relationship.

We support Turkey's aspirations to become a member of the European Union. - State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher

http://www.useu.be/Categories/US&EUEnlarge...nlargement.html

So C-2, wait untill 70 million muslims join the EU. I hope you'll not have a heart-attack and you'll be around to thank the US and UK, the countries you love most.

take care

This post has been edited by Imperialist on August 26, 2006 07:53 pm

“By welcoming Turkey, we will demonstrate that Western and Islamic cultures can thrive together as partners in the modern world.” - British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8939/turkey...adcrumb=default

We've long believed, however, that Turkey's future is in Europe; it's in the strategic interest of the United States and the European Union, of Turkey and the European Union, that Turkey and the European Union build the closest possible relationship.

We support Turkey's aspirations to become a member of the European Union. - State Department Spokesman Richard Boucher

http://www.useu.be/Categories/US&EUEnlarge...nlargement.html

So C-2, wait untill 70 million muslims join the EU. I hope you'll not have a heart-attack and you'll be around to thank the US and UK, the countries you love most.

take care

what have to do Turkey with you islam bashing?
Turkey is a complectly different anymal. They are a LAIC society by the force of the Gun. Kemal Ataturk did that and they still love him for that.

Since Israel did undertake aggressive actions in Lebanon since 1975, it is hard to draw a line and say the Israeli actions had no effect on the formation of shiite reaction/resistance (Hezbollah).

However, coming back to what you said, the only organisation founded around 1975 was Harakat Amal (in 1974). Apparently Hezbollah was born after splits appeared in Amal in 1978 and then the influence of the iranian islamic revolution was felt in 1979. I dont know if Hezbollah was planned in 1975. Do you have some info regarding that?

take care

I'm embarrassed to say that I had an old photocopy of some articles from 1991, and cannot locate them.

Internet searches tend to agree with the 1982 with action in 1983 you quote, so I think you win this round. If I'm able to find the info, I'll post it.

The articles were focussed on Mr. Sadr, the elder's role in the formation of the Iranian revolution and in Hezbollah.

C-2 and Imperialist, I won't edit any more posts containing personal attacks. I will delete them directly or will lock the topic. And this goes for everyone. If you are not capable of discussing like civilized people, without throwing mud at eachother, without unnecessary aggressivity and misplaced irony, than don't.

Also, C-2 you have to mention sources for posted images.

shocking pictures, C2. When you see that stuff, you know the world is in trouble...

And about Sid and his Rhodesian military expersince where he said he commanded African soldiers, what rank did you hold?

Regards,

K

I've brought it up before, and I'll probably bring it up again, but a majority of the Palestinians who were displaced in 1948, did so voluntarily, to force a crisis on the region. Israel did not force migrations of Arabs when it declared itself a state. To this day, many Arabs live peacefully, own property and have all the economic and political benefits of living in Israel.

Large amounts of Palestinian land are actually being held by the Arab neighbors of Israel, but no-one appears to be protesting their refusal to return them to the formation of a Palestinian state.

Israel is not guiltless, but the great, great majority of criticism of Israel is pure, unadulterated b.s., created by a large and effective Arab propaganda machine, dedicated to keep poor Arabs focused on Israel, and distract them from the actions of their largely corrupt and cruel leadership.

I don't think we can impact the feelings of the Arab street, but when the main stream media readily reports this pro-Arab propopaganda, to include things they know are completely made up by Arabs to sway public opinion, like the deaths in Qana, we are in trouble.