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Romanian Loses 1940 to Soviets| Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 24, 2003 10:27 am
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Caporal  Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003  |
In 1940 Romania lost nerly 30 per cent of territorium, also access to Dniestr river was lost.
I think that here were also ships , at least merchant , lost to Soviets. Have somebody lists of ships transferred to Soviets in 1940s. The Soviet Danube flotilla established 1940 included also some ex Romanian ships, at least SOVIETSKAYA BUKOVINA - hospital ship SOVIETSKAYA BESSARABIYA- transport and some more were ex Romanian ones. Have somebody ideas about these Romanian ships ???? I do not belive Soviet bought them :cry: |
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| Andreas von Mach |
Posted: October 24, 2003 08:35 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
For memory known auxiliary ships of Soviet Daube Flotilla
BUG lost 18.8.41 in Kherson German tanks -deleted 30.8.41 -HQ ship GROZA lost 17.9.41 on German mine off halfinsel Pervomayskiy -floating base of armoured motorboats, IN-23 tug escaped to Black Sea KP-11 22.6.41-23.7.41 tug KP-23 22.6.41-23.7.41 tug side wheel PS-3 mobilised 19.7.41 blown up 8.7.41 at Reni - deleted 20.11.41 -auxiliary sailing schooner PM-10 22.6.41 repair ship escaped to Black Sea KOLKHOZNIK lost 21.9.41 near village Pokrovka enemy A/c - mine depot 1 floating dock 1 tanker 1 ferry boat 5 pontons Auxiliary tugs , perheps mobilised only: BUREVESTNIK PARTIZAN ZHELEZNIAK KETTI CHAPAYEVKA DEFLETOV |
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| Cristian Craciunoiu |
Posted: October 29, 2003 08:17 am
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Fruntas  Group: Members Posts: 69 Member No.: 102 Joined: September 09, 2003 |
The Soviets took all the ships they found in the ex Romanian harbours. Fortunately they were very few and left the area before they could reach there. We could find a list of barges, but tugs and no passangers are included.
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| Th. Dorgeist |
Posted: August 15, 2006 09:49 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 64 Member No.: 31 Joined: July 09, 2003 |
Hallo,
ich habe großes Interesse an die 1939-1941 auf der Donau in Verlust geratenen Schiffe von Rumänien, UdSSR, DEutschland usw. Vielleicht lindet sich ja noch eine Liste der Lastkähne, Pontons usw. Dank und Gruß Theo |
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| Florin |
Posted: August 16, 2006 12:57 pm
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 General de corp de armata  Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Can you please mention this in English? Germany did not win World War II, if I remember right. |
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| dead-cat |
Posted: August 16, 2006 01:24 pm
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 Locotenent  Group: Members Posts: 559 Member No.: 99 Joined: September 05, 2003 |
i'll translate:
"i'm very intrested in riverine units lost on the Danube river between 1939-1941 by Romania, Soviet Union, Germany. Maybe someone has a list of barges, pontons etc." |
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| Th. Dorgeist |
Posted: August 16, 2006 06:21 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 64 Member No.: 31 Joined: July 09, 2003 |
""Germany did not win World War II, if I remember right.""
Hello Florin, my English is not perfect unfortunately, your politeness (blandness ?) however probably also not. Germany does not have God is won owing to the war, thus there is not here also so many cement - heads. Only together one can regenerate the nevertheless straight heavy history of the war in the black sea area, Many greetings Theo |
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| Florin |
Posted: August 16, 2006 08:10 pm
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General de corp de armata Group: Members Posts: 1879 Member No.: 17 Joined: June 22, 2003 |
Mr. Dorgeist, I know I was not quite polite. At least you have to agree that if Germany would win that war, people on planet Earth would speak today German everywhere, in stead of English. As German grammar is much more difficult than English grammar, and the nouns have to start with capital letter, and the words join together in strange long combined words, I am not too sad that National-Socialist Germany lost the war. This post has been edited by Florin on August 16, 2006 08:23 pm |
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| Andreas von Mach |
Posted: January 13, 2007 02:26 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
I have from Ukraine some data relating to early Soviet vessels ion the Danube
SOVETSKAYA BUKOVINA ex PRINCIPELE NICOLAE built 1885 Germany 30,6x5,58x1,8m 250hp=16km/h Passengers 6-I Class 40-II 160-deck During WW II haspital ship in Danube Flotilla 1944 decomissioned as hospital ship till 1947 staff ship Danube Flotilla 1947 Azovskoe Parokhodstvo 1955 Taganrog shipyard - served as yachts baseship 1962 grounded , salvaged and scrapped SOVETSKAYA BESSARABIYA 250t dwt 14km/h lager as the above 15.9.41 lost off Tendra in heavy weather 1942 salveged by Germans towed fro repairs to Romania. 1944 Romonian transferred to USSR transferred to Azov SS company Some other vessels ETTOR KRASNYY FLOT PSKOV PLEKHANOV STEPAN RAZIN AvM This post has been edited by Andreas von Mach on January 13, 2007 05:46 pm |
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| Andreas von Mach |
Posted: January 14, 2007 07:53 am
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
PRINCIPELE NICOLAE was built not in Germany but
in Austria by Mayer, Linz #308 as CAROLUS 1885 Radzugdampfer (It is an error she was screw steamer) 160hp 33,530x5,860x2,743x1,134m and engined by Escher -Wayss, Zürich #382 in yard list as CAROLUS I Passagier-Schraubenboot 160hp Compound,Vertikal,fest AvM |
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| Andreas von Mach |
Posted: March 20, 2007 11:22 pm
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Caporal Group: Members Posts: 138 Member No.: 84 Joined: August 19, 2003 |
SOVETSKAYA BESSARABIYA was refloated 1942 and converted into floating accomodation vessel BESSAREBECKU At the end of August 1944 seized at Danube estuary and transferred to Black Sea Shipping Company AvM |
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