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Posted: July 17, 2007 12:31 pm
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Does anyone know details about the incident involving Me 109 G No. 334 (7 yellow or white; i can't figure exctly wat was the marking's colour)?

All I can tell from the picture bellow is that incident obviously took place after August 23rd 1944.

Can anyone post more details about this?

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Posted: July 17, 2007 12:41 pm
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There is already a thread mentioning this post-war accident (you have already posted there) rolleyes.gif :
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...&st=0&hl=yellow

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Posted: July 17, 2007 09:06 pm
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Oops!!!

Forogot about the earlier topic.

Sorry for the mistake.
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Posted: July 17, 2007 10:11 pm
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Well if I made the mistake and started this topic, let me post the other two pictures I have with this incident.

This way, the whole set of 5 pictures (two boght by Cantacuzino and the rest by me) that was available for sale in an antique shop from Bucharest can be seen on this forum.

Top front view of the crashed airplane.
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Front underside view
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  Posted: July 18, 2007 07:21 am
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Gee man, how close to the tree has crashed this plane !! blink.gif
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Posted: July 18, 2007 09:59 am
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Actually, I believe the aircraft started to skid on its side following a failed emergency landing, then hit a tree with the starboard wing (see damage on the wing's leading edge), then turned 90 deg., then this tree finally stopped the slowly skidding plane.

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Posted: July 18, 2007 10:02 am
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It is most likely that the pilot attempted to belly-land the plane on the road and the plane skidded until it clipped the tree with the wing, whereby it spun.
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Posted: July 18, 2007 01:18 pm
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On the second photo I see a downed tree. That might be the culprit for the damage visible on the wing leading edge, or even for the entire port wing that had shred off.

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Posted: July 21, 2007 02:01 am
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Maybe offtopic, but ....does anyone know where there might be an intact, possibly operational, ME109 on view? ANYWHERE??? I've never seen one. I'm reading "I flew for the Fuhrer" by Hauptmann Heinz Knoke (ME109 ace), and after hearing him talk about the Me A/C vs Spitfires (which I have seen) and B-17's (ditto), I HAVE to see one of the former. Is there an air museum in Ro? The one in England (near Stonehenge) has only Spits, Hurricanes, etc (and is kind of tracky, at that). The ones here have B-17's, B-25's, even a MIG 15, but no ME's
thanks in advance. cnfb
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  Posted: July 21, 2007 06:08 am
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QUOTE (cnflyboy2000 @ July 21, 2007 04:01 am)
Maybe offtopic, but ....does anyone know where there might be an intact, possibly operational, ME109 on view?  ANYWHERE??? I've never seen one ....

An intact G2 one, but I think not operational (why operational, do you wana make a tour laugh.gif ) you may see in Belgrade, at the Yougoslav Aeronautical Museum. I just was there (excelent btw). Here you can see some 29 photos made by myself.

http://www.cartula.net/modules/xcgal/thumb...s.php?album=650

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Posted: July 21, 2007 06:58 am
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QUOTE (MaxFax @ July 21, 2007 12:08 pm)
An intact G2 one, but I think not operational (why operational, do you wana make a tour  laugh.gif ) you may see in Belgrade, at the Yougoslav Aeronautical Museum.

Interestingly, that Gustav was originally delivered to Bulgaria and ended up in Yugoslavia after the war.

BTW, there are Bf 109s exhibited in various museums in the USA, too.

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I just have uploaded 2 more photos with Bf-109 G2.

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Interestingly, that Gustav was originally delivered to Bulgaria and ended up in Yugoslavia after the war.


I admit I was so preocupated to shot pictures, I didn't look careful enough to the written material next to the plane. Maybe there are some explenations ... unsure.gif


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BTW, there are Bf 109s exhibited in various museums in the USA, too.

Hey, USA is far awaaaay from us ! wink.gif
Belgrad is just 217km from Lugoj, were I live ! smile.gif
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Posted: July 21, 2007 08:13 am
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QUOTE (cnflyboy2000 @ July 21, 2007 04:01 am)
Maybe offtopic, but ....does anyone know where there might be an intact, possibly operational, ME109 on view? ANYWHERE??? I've never seen one. I'm reading "I flew for the Fuhrer" by Hauptmann Heinz Knoke (ME109 ace), and after hearing him talk about the Me A/C vs Spitfires (which I have seen) and B-17's (ditto), I HAVE to see one of the former. Is there an air museum in Ro? The one in England (near Stonehenge) has only Spits, Hurricanes, etc (and is kind of tracky, at that). The ones here have B-17's, B-25's, even a MIG 15, but no ME's
thanks in advance. cnfb

My advice is to pay a visit to the museum in Munich, which has a huge collection of German aircraft (including a Ju-52 in which one can climb in) and a lot of other technical exhibits. It's very interesting.
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Posted: July 21, 2007 10:12 am
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http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/home.html go to "Walkarounds" and you will see some preserved (and not so preserved biggrin.gif ) 109s.

Also, http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de/index-1024.php has a lot of useful info about airframes on display along with plenty of photos.

If you can make it to London, there is a beautiful G2 "Black 6" in the RAf Museum in Hendon. http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/collect...aircraft_id=169

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  Posted: July 21, 2007 01:46 pm
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QUOTE (Victor @ July 21, 2007 10:13 am)

My advice is to pay a visit to the museum in Munich, which has a huge collection of German aircraft (including a Ju-52 in which one can climb in) and a lot of other technical exhibits. It's very interesting.

No doubt the Munich museum is a very strong and good one. I must for every body. But it's a little bit far. Belgrade is mooore close cool.gif !
And hey, they have also a Ju-52 ! Ok, you can't climb in it, but you can get as close you want.

PS: great links Radu. Thanks!

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