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Ferdinand
Posted: August 14, 2007 07:55 am
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guys i need you help once again....

i have this small wodden box from someone that says the box is a smalll cartrige box!!!!
any ideea of what can it be?


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any oppinion it's binevenita!
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Posted: August 14, 2007 08:07 am
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It may be an ammo box for an MG.
But i`m not sure. Mihnea should know nore.
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mihnea
Posted: August 14, 2007 12:44 pm
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To me it looks like a small tool box, never seen something like this in pictures.
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Posted: August 14, 2007 01:45 pm
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Hallo seeker biggrin.gif

And does it look like the inside was compartmented / Divided?

Possibly a box for optics / sights for a weapon??

Can you give us any measurements?

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Posted: August 15, 2007 11:14 am
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dimensions are aprox 50cm long, 13 cm wide, 10-13 cm height.
some other opinion was that it is a custom trench made box for ammo....to carry a larger amount of cartriges but not with big boxes

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mihnea
Posted: August 15, 2007 11:47 am
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Trench made.... now we are talking about the Romanian front not the western front with almost 4 years of trench warfare; trenches were used in Romania but they never became as complex as the ones in the west, so this explanation doesn’t really stand up.

Why can't it just be a very nice tool box??
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Posted: August 15, 2007 12:53 pm
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Buy the item, not the story.

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Posted: August 15, 2007 08:24 pm
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QUOTE (mihnea @ August 15, 2007 11:47 am)
Trench made.... now we are talking about the Romanian front not the western front with almost 4 years of trench warfare; trenches were used in Romania but they never became as complex as the ones in the west, so this explanation doesn’t really stand up.

Why can't it just be a very nice tool box??

thanx mihnea for your everytime interventions..it helps a guy like me who does not has ww1,2 experience and knowledge.
for me it's really important to know what i have in my hands...


so thanx for the real help rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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Ferdinand
Posted: August 15, 2007 08:36 pm
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QUOTE (Alexei2102 @ August 15, 2007 12:53 pm)
Buy the item, not the story.

Cheers,

Al

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one question!
if you'd had the possibility to buy same ww2 item at same price....for example waffen ss item...and you have two choices:
1. from antiq shop in chisinew
2. from a former waffen ss general's nephew,

i'm preety sure that you'll buy the one from store laugh.gif

for me it really counts the history that's behind items
just to give you another ex:
mussolini's fiat berlinetta...what price did had at auction, and see price for normal berlineta, same era

anyway...thanx for intervention smile.gif

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Posted: August 16, 2007 05:33 am
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My advice was not given for nothing. Our hobby is riddled with fakes, and every crook seller is making a very nice story to go behind their useless item.

If I were to choose where to buy between an antique store and the vet's family, my answer will be - I will buy the original, or I would not buy. The source matters not to me. It is indeed a bonus when I can buy from a real vet, but that is it.

The key story is to study hard before you buy. I collect Soldbucher and Wehrpassen. So, before starting to collect, I had to buy and study Emily Caldwell's book. Also, I have in my collection as many books as I can on the unit history of FJ and Brandenburgers (the units I collect). Also, when I am in trouble with a piece, I ask for help from specialists, just as you did.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to this - buy the item, not the story. Because if you'll buy an item for its story, and you will later find out it is a fake, the dissapointment will be double.

Enjoy your hobby.
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Posted: August 16, 2007 05:53 pm
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yes, on one hand you are right with the large amount of fake things present on market, but on the other hand, most people i buy from are not comerciants, but peasants, people that has old houses, etc....so the story behind every object has more credibillity to me.


i understand that you care for an amateur as me not to be lied an cheated.
i thank you 4 your intervention.

almoust every year i go to germany...so every antiq markt i look 4 FJ item....a helmet! ph34r.gif

thanx once again smile.gif
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Posted: August 16, 2007 06:06 pm
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Like Mihnea said it seems to be a tool box. I have seen WWI AEF ammo boxes (and I am looking at purchasing one) and nothing like it at all plus WWII most likely is out of the question since all the ones I have seen were metal.

As for collecting, each person has their own area's. If US items I by from families or reputable dealers. For WWII foreign items, I contact my friends there in Romania, people I know personally who have collections, people I know on Ebay who are reputable (though you will get burned once in awhile if you don't know them). If the object is from an individual who was there great but if not still just as good.
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Posted: August 17, 2007 09:53 am
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QUOTE (RHaught @ August 16, 2007 06:06 pm)
Like Mihnea said it seems to be a tool box. I have seen WWI AEF ammo boxes (and I am looking at purchasing one) and nothing like it at all plus WWII most likely is out of the question since all the ones I have seen were metal.

As for collecting, each person has their own area's. If US items I by from families or reputable dealers. For WWII foreign items, I contact my friends there in Romania, people I know personally who have collections, people I know on Ebay who are reputable (though you will get burned once in awhile if you don't know them). If the object is from an individual who was there great but if not still just as good.

i have one question...

if you've seen just metal boxes, any ideea what this was. i can assume but have no ideea exactly.

thanx 4 oppinion

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i think maybe you are reffering to small boxes??


anyway thankx smile.gif
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Posted: August 19, 2007 11:47 pm
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Yes, MG ammo cans. Boxes for ammo were seen for large quantities on supply lines. Boxes were used from grenades, mortar rounds, etc. I store my reenactnig gear in a large box used for ammo/shells for a PAK gun. The box above that you have shown I haven't personally seen before. Maybe not German but Hungarian or another country?
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Posted: August 20, 2007 06:38 am
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Hallo Gents; biggrin.gif

This box is Hungarian and the marking with KAB can be found on Hungarian Helmets.

Its obviously a military item, but I have no idea what the word "Robbano" in red on the side means.

The stamp 3 MAVAG 938 possibly is a date to 1938.

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