Picture of the Day - "Progress" in Iraq / Update

[cnflyboy2000]

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QUOTE Are the Republicans going to run against Clinton again? They should find another punching bag. Oh.....I see. When you hear an argument which you can't dispute, you just say "Let's move on". I'm just pointing out the double standard you are using. If you, as a proud Democrat, had no problem with Clinton being the epitomy of a total draft dodger, then you shouldn't complain that Bush didn't participate in combat. At least he did time in the Coast Guard and flew a jet, instead of hopping on the first plane to London. So let's drop the hypocrisy... :wink:

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I beg your pardon? I'm merely pointing out that the Republicans already ran against Clinton three times. In my view that should be enough. Let them slug it out with Kerry.

Yeah, granted Clinton was no John Wayne, but I don't think he pretended to be one. He was opposed to the war. Is that dishonorable in a democracy? A lot of people avoided that war, one way or another. A lot more had neither the position, the college deferment or the connections to stay out of the draft/combat. Some of their names are on a big black wall down in D.C. I grant your point here. They both did a version of the same thing, imo.

But, I also don't recall C. dressing up in a flight suit and prancing around the deck of an aircraft carrier in celebration of the "mission accomplished". Or launching off half cocked in a very expensive preemptive war against the wrong bad guys. And saying f--- u to the rest of the world while he was doing it.

And why stop with Clinton if u want a rematch? By your logic, can we start wheeling out the service records, or whomever might make B. look relatively good? (admittedly something of a task) Let's see; now where WAS Harry Truman in WWI?, and, hey, didn't LBJ have a cushy desk job in WWII? JFK? Let's not even go there; we all know he was too busy screwing starlets to really have spent much time on that PT boat.

Meanwhile General Ron Reagan was kickin' butt in the Pacific theater (well, on celluloid anyway) and Richard Nixon was....well, where was he?

Do we need this kind of a p---ing contest now?

And hey, guy; attack my argument, don't impugn my motives if u please. Why would u presume I am moving on or anywhere else, thank you? I don't think I am evading the issue, if that's your implication.

Also, please do not call me a hypocrit, I regard that as a personal attack. I will not be responding in any way to a post containing another.

And as for calling me a Democrat........that is a presumptuous epithet indeed.. How do u know I'm a proud anything? For the record, at the momen, i'm an indie with Libertarian sympathies.

[cnflyboy2000]

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QUOTE .......... If u missed it, almost any protest in those days had it's radicals foaming at the mouth and screaming things.   As somebody living for some years in the US, I dare to say that both sides are "foaming at the mouth and screaming things", to use your words. This is one big problem of the American everyday life: seeing everything in black-or-white, and missing the countless shades of gray. Very often, the truth is in the middle, but neither side would accept this.

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I could not agree with u more. And it's getting worse, is all I can add.

[Florin]

In the following sites

http://journals.aol.com/bmiller224/OldHickorysWeblog

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/browse?ao=1

it is interesting to see how different the authors comment the same events.

First site is quite liberal, the second is conservative republican, and their points of view are so far away, that the whole world seems to lay in between.

[mabadesc]

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This is one big problem of the American everyday life: seeing everything in black-or-white, and missing the countless shades of gray.

This is actually a very accurate and astute observation, which applies especially to politics.

[mabadesc]

cnflyboy wrote:

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And why stop with Clinton if u want a rematch? By your logic, can we start wheeling out the service records, or whomever might make B. look relatively good?

Your reply does nothing but prove exactly what I was trying to convince you in my previous posts: Military service records do not qualify or disqualify a person from the presidency. Being a war hero has nothing to do with being a good (or bad) president.

Yet this is what you were implying in your previous posts: comparing Kerry's and McCain's "authentic warriors" status with Bush's service in a "Champagne Squadron".

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I don't think I am evading the issue, if that's your implication.

I didn't imply it. I pretty much stated it directly. I do think you were evading the issue in a blatant manner.

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Also, please do not call me a hypocrit, I regard that as a personal attack.

I said "Let's stop the hypocrisy", I did not say you were a hypocrit. There is a big difference between the two. And, sorry if my statement offended you, but your post really was hypocritical and used double standards. I don't have a problem exposing a hypocritical statement any time I see one.

[Indrid]

stupid irakis....what the hell did they have against that boy?
they desrve to lose this one, they are absolute monkeys in what concerns the possibilities to speculate a good political environment

stupid, stupid. stupid

[Florin]

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stupid irakis....what the hell did they have against that boy?   .........

That unfortunate savagery serves much better the United States, politically and for propaganda, than the Islam. Actually it serves so well, and at the right moment, that I would ask myself who really did it, if some Arabs did not show in the past that they are capable of these savage acts. They have all the chances to be the real authors. It seems some of these Muslims have the talent to blow up political advantages with their own stupid acts.

The same way military occupation and street by street fighting are going nowhere for the US, Middle Age style killings are going nowhere for the Muslim militants. And it seems neither side understands what is doing wrong.

[Chandernagore]

I read many angry comments by Muslims that shows they're well aware that this terrorist group blew a big advantage. And nothing to show in return but a martyr.

Now, I will tell you sincerely : if anyone gives me a big juicy contract to work in Irak I will show him the finger :roll:
I want to live more than I want to be rich.

[Florin]

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........ I want to live more than I want to be rich.

Especially considering there is only one life to be lived...

[Chandernagore]

There, you can see the f....g animals at work :

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Warning. Bloody and disturbing indeed. The guy didn't die in a half second that's for sure.

[rcristi]

Animals? Those imbecils should be hunted down and IMPALED on the spot! Forget about laws and fair trials.

[dragos]

However it is curious why that guy was interogated by the CIA and in the end he got on the hand of those terrorists :question:

[C-2]

I wonder about this myself...
He was arested by US forces and held for quite a while until sent free.
A friend of my was very serious when he said that those masked guys,who behaded the American were also Americans who wanted to let their atrocities in the Iraki jails forgoten...

[cnflyboy2000]

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I wonder about this myself... He was arested by US forces and held for quite a while until sent free. A friend of my was very serious when he said that those masked guys,who behaded the American were also Americans who wanted to let their atrocities in the Iraki jails forgoten...

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Oh, PUHLEEEZE!

The knife scumbag has been id'd with "high probability" as Zarqawi.
(tech anaylsis, voice on recording of the act).


If this is a widely held view, I'd say the U.S. has got more credibility problems than i'd imagined in MY worst nightmare.















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[Chandernagore]

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The knife scumbag has been id'd with \"high probability\" as Zarqawi.   (tech anaylsis, voice on recording of the act).

If it is true, and if Zarqawi is captured and if he would be skinned alive on video by Rumsfeld ... I wouldn't bat an eye :roll:

I do not condone what the MP have done in Abu Ghraib. But these butchers cannot be called human beings :mad: