Picture of the Day - "Progress" in Iraq / Update

[Florin]

Very interesting point of view, Jeff.

As the Southern part of the US contributed and contributes much more to the volunteer army than the Northern part, the impact you describe may be sensed even more there. Exactly in that South where the Republicans linked many of their hopes.

Well, will see. These days I have to confess I paid a lot of interest for the Democratic Convention. I think I'll pay some interest to the Republican Convention also, just to see what is the difference.

I would not be surprised if Kerry, as president, would rise the international commitment of the US Army, but this may signal the re-introduction of the mandatory draft.

[Chandernagore]

Buried Mig 25 in Irak. Used as a media coup to conjecture about other Weapon of Mass Disapperance. But still an impressive sight.

[Florin]

Interesting photos.

Maybe the guys who dug in about 150 Sumerian, Assyrian and Babylonian abandoned cities actually were also looking for weapons of mass destruction. :wink:

[Indrid]

what do you mean? of course it is a weapon of MS !!! just imagine a US soldier tripping on it while burrried in the sand....

[dragos]

A Romanian TV channel sent a corespondent in Irak. He filmed this day an American friendly incursion in one Irakian city, asking Irakian population to cease fighting so that the reconstruction can start. However, almost entire population, children including, had a negative reaction at the presence of US troops. It seems many of them learned several English words: "Americans, go away".

[Chandernagore]

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A Romanian TV channel sent a corespondent in Irak. He filmed this day an American friendly incursion in one Irakian city, asking Irakian population to cease fighting so that the reconstruction can start. However, almost entire population, children including, had a negative reaction at the presence of US troops. It seems many of them learned several English words: \"Americans, go away\".

"No one likes armed missionaries"

Robespierre 179 (3 ?)

Meanwhile the speeches at the republican convention in NY looks like those of the Morlocks on planet Zephiria.

[mabadesc]

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Meanwhile the speeches at the republican convention in NY looks like those of the Morlocks on planet Zephiria.

Latest Time magazine poll taken after the "Morlock speeches", as Chandernagore puts it:

Bush: 52%
Kerry: 41%
Nader: 3%

Read the whole article at:

http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/ar...,692562,00.html

That's an 11 point lead. Obviously it will come down some, but for the last month there has been a consistent trend towards Bush which has left most Democratic Election Experts worried - and they publicly admit it's not looking good for Kerry.

P.S. By the way, Time magazine is known for their liberal views, so there is no possibility of "twisting" the numbers in favor of Bush.
Still, no one can predict the future....

[mabadesc]

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\"No one likes armed missionaries\"   Robespierre 179 (3 ?)

Robespierre was a cruel butcher and dictator.
What next, are we going to start quoting Hitler? :wink:

The message may be good.......the source is not.

[Chandernagore]

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QUOTE \"No one likes armed missionaries\"   Robespierre 179 (3 ?) Robespierre was a cruel butcher and dictator. What next, are we going to start quoting Hitler? :wink: The message may be good.......the source is not.

You should really read some books (preferably by French historians) about the man. There is far more in him than college history courses will deliver. He was hardly a "butcher". Quantitatively the losses due to executions during the French revolution are surprisingly low comparatively to many others and are completely dwarfed by some contemporary events of the same kind. They only look impressive because they targeted many famous people. Oh yes he turned something close to a dictator near the end.

Robespierre, like several politicians from that era is exceptional in that he worked for an ideal in which he deeply believed. It was a time where politics were a very deadly game. He never run after money : during all his time he didn't even own the house in which he lived in and worked like a dog for (by today standards) ridiculous wages. Try finding such a politician today. I hold the French revolution as the golden period of European politics thanks to men like Robespierre, Saint Just, Danton, etc... They were not perfect. They made mistakes, but they contributed to return the republic and democracy to Europe.

[Chandernagore]

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Latest Time magazine poll taken after the \"Morlock speeches\", as Chandernagore puts it:   Bush: 52%   Kerry: 41%   Nader: 3%

Ouch. That's very bad advertising for the USA. Lets' prepare for the invasion of Iran or Syria.

[dragos]

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Robespierre, like several politicians from that era is exceptional in that he worked for an ideal in which he deeply believed.

I think that the French revolution gave birth to the nationalism as political attitude (much disgraced these days :wink: ). And, as I have mentioned in other topic, it was the revolt of the peasants in Transylvania, which promoted the same principles even before the French revolution. The rebuffal was gruesome, with feudal punishments thought to have been absoved by that time in Europe. But this is off-topic.

[Florin]

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...What next, are we going to start quoting Hitler?   :wink:   ....

You see, you inspired me to give a quote from him:

"As long as the Aryan was a merciless master, the Arts and the Science progressed." :loool:

Ooops... Isn't this like a reminder about the Affirmative Action? :laugh: :?:

[Chandernagore]

[quote="Florin"]"As long as the Aryan was a merciless master, the Arts and the Science progressed."quote]

Toward oblivion o:)

[mabadesc]

Chandernagore wrote:

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You should really read some books (preferably by French historians) about the man. There is far more in him than college history courses will deliver.

I've read more than enough on him and on French history in general, thank you. Princeton tends to be fairly demanding with their French Literature Doctoral candidates, you know.....
They also bring world experts from France to lecture to us. So trust me, I've read enough, and I've heard both sides on the matter.

And my opinion is (without going into details) that overall Robespierre was a cruel dictator and yes, a butcher.

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Quantitatively the losses due to executions during the French revolution are surprisingly low comparatively to many others and are completely dwarfed by some contemporary events of the same kind

There is always a more atrocious event to compare it with.....that doesn't make it any more acceptable.

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I hold the French revolution as the golden period of European politics ...

Well, that says enough about your views. End of discussion...

[mabadesc]

Florin wrote:

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You see, you inspired me to give a quote from him:   \"As long as the Aryan was a merciless master, the Arts and the Science progressed.\"     Ooops... Isn't this like a reminder about the Affirmative Action

That's hilarious.......great post, Florin!