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Zayda
Posted: November 05, 2004 05:37 pm
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well, it seems that Bush has chosen to increase the number of soldiers deployed for starters..to destroy the Fallujah misfits..
and why do u think that it is only for oil? maybe the initial reason was another: maybe Saddam was becoming too predictable, in the worst way..was it genuine preemption?
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Posted: November 05, 2004 05:58 pm
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Predictable? Now that's a better reason than reason itself... dry.gif
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Posted: November 06, 2004 01:20 am
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At the point of preemption, Saddam was hardly a threat to anyone, let's not even joke about a treat to the US. He commanded a 3rd world impoverished, demoralized military.

If not economic ressource control, what else ? My prefered explanation : punishing Saddam for changing Irak's oil currency from $ to € and, by so doing, showing a very bad example to the other OPEC countries. Imagine that. Shaking the fundations of US financial empire and dollar domination. A truly unforgivable crime.
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Posted: November 06, 2004 08:58 am
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We are subcontractor for re-arming Irak. "Mini exporters", more like, after a 5'th place in world top.

Here is a link to an article in romanian press, CAPITAL:
http://www.capital.ro/index.jsp?page=artic...92§ion_id=4

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Posted: November 08, 2004 12:39 am
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Allawi was in western EU to get some support for his government. Snobed by the French, half ignored by everybody else, I was almost sorry for him. In a sense this is bad. Things are not going back. Either he succeed or we will have a new Islamic republic. I fear the later is inevitable. The unwillingness of the EU to get blackmailed by the Rambo policies of Mr Bush is going to have some unpleasant side effects. Officialy there have been a few gestures of goodwill from EU part. But the heart is not there., you sense that immediately.

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Posted: November 11, 2004 07:46 pm
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QUOTE (Chandernagore @ Nov 7 2004, 07:39 PM)
The unwillingness of the EU to get blackmailed by the Rambo policies of Mr Bush is going to have some unpleasant side effects.

Really?

For the moment he was re-elected. I guess you saw the USA map with "the blue states" and "the red states". Red is from "red neck", of course. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

PS: I know you live in Europe, but I guess you know what red neck means.

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Posted: November 16, 2004 12:29 am
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15th of November, 2004

I saw today at BBC International, filmed live, and then I listened a comment at ABC News, about a wounded man from Falluja shot in head by a Marine just because he was still breathing when he was found abandoned on floor.

Did you see that at the Romanian news TV channels?
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Posted: November 16, 2004 10:13 am
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In Romania? Are you kiddin'? We love the war against terror! mad.gif

Most televisions openly stood behind Bush, so such a feat (presenting reality) would be too much...
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Posted: November 16, 2004 11:11 am
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http://www.adevarulonline.ro/index.jsp?pag...ticle_id=105673

Catalin Dima, american soldier of romanian origins, was killed sunday at Camp Victoria near Bagdad. A romanian lieutenant-colonel was also wounded...
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Posted: November 16, 2004 03:28 pm
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Alexandru wrote:

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Most televisions openly stood behind Bush, so such a feat (presenting reality) would be too much...


You are wrong. Actually, quite the opposite is true: several independent, non-partisan media studies have recently concluded that the US media (television + press) has shown a strong bias against President Bush. In the past 4 years, 78% of all media reports concerning Bush were critical and/or negative.

I won't even mention European media or companies like the BBC, who is inching ever closer towards socialism.
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Posted: November 16, 2004 05:06 pm
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QUOTE (Florin @ Nov 16 2004, 02:29 AM)
15th of November, 2004

I saw today at BBC International, filmed live, and then I listened a comment at ABC News, about a wounded man from Falluja shot in head by a Marine just because he was still breathing when he was found abandoned on floor.

Did you see that at the Romanian news TV channels?

The footage was shown today (16 Nov) at the evening news by most TV channels.
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Posted: November 16, 2004 06:28 pm
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I won't even mention European media or companies like the BBC, who is inching ever closer towards socialism.


Oh ? So tell us, what's so terribly wrong with socialism ? Socialism is a major component of almost every western european country political landscape. If it was somehow er... how to say EVIL , why are we not aware ?
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Posted: November 17, 2004 03:31 am
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QUOTE (mabadesc @ Nov 16 2004, 10:28 AM)
Several independent, non-partisan media studies have recently concluded that the US media (television + press) has shown a strong bias against President Bush.  In the past 4 years, 78% of all media reports concerning Bush were critical and/or negative.

I won't even mention European media or companies like the BBC, who is inching ever closer towards socialism.

And what should we do? Should we listen Fox News? blink.gif tongue.gif mad.gif

But what is a genuine pearl in your comment is "European media or companies like the BBC, who is inching ever closer towards socialism".

So who don't like Bush is Socialist? laugh.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif
Well, if this makes me a Socialist, so be it.
Better than a "yes man" in an Advertise-Subjugated / Cannibalistic / Dement society.

And by the way, there is a solution for the fact that 78% of all media reports concerning Bush were critical and/or negative. A solution already applied by Mr. Allawi, a great democrat, against Al-Jazeera. To forbid 78% of all media. And then, as a bonus, to forbid the Internet Forums, and to arrest the Internet chatters.

I don't understand why all this noise about the elections in Iraq. Whatever will happen in the election day, or even if nobody will go to vote, the Bush administration will hail the results as good and just. Like in Afghanistan. Regarding the elections in Afghanistan, what do I know is from the American mass media. Oh, yes, from that 78% of the American mass media... wink.gif

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Posted: November 17, 2004 03:39 am
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QUOTE (Alexandru H. @ Nov 16 2004, 06:11 AM)
Catalin Dima, american soldier of romanian origins, was killed sunday at Camp Victoria near Bagdad. A romanian lieutenant-colonel was also wounded...

Very sad. Really sad indeed. I really feel sincere sorry.

And not only for them, but for all people from both sides who are losing their lives there.
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Posted: November 17, 2004 03:49 am
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QUOTE (Chandernagore @ Nov 16 2004, 01:28 PM)
Oh ? So tell us, what's so terribly wrong with socialism ? Socialism is a major component of almost every western european country political landscape. If it was somehow er... how to say  EVIL ,  why are we not aware ?

Socialism is bad when you have your own business, and when you have to pay employees, and to apply the caressing whip lash of the benevolent master. As long you are an employee, and your boss is sucking your life drop by drop, it is quite an attractive idea. laugh.gif smile.gif

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