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Dénes |
Posted: April 20, 2008 05:04 pm
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I have an original photo taken by a German soldier, dated 10 May 1941, that shows an officer with a long beard, wearing some sort of medal.
Was such a prominent beard accepted/tolerated in the Army? Gen. Dénes |
guina |
Posted: April 20, 2008 05:43 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 339 Member No.: 1393 Joined: April 16, 2007 |
A veteran or a military priest?
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Bernard Miclescu |
Posted: April 20, 2008 06:39 pm
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Plutonier major Group: Members Posts: 335 Member No.: 53 Joined: July 22, 2003 |
What's the object in his right hand? Is that "une trompette" (in french)- musical instrument? Under his left hand he has a sword. What does it mean? As for the priest... i do not think that army chapelains were so old!!!! Army need young priests to be beyond the lines. In all the photos with Romanian Army chapelains that i saw till now were quite young. BM This post has been edited by Bernard Miclescu on April 20, 2008 06:41 pm |
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Kepi |
Posted: April 20, 2008 06:49 pm
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 432 Member No.: 680 Joined: September 28, 2005 |
It seems he is an NCO (that’s why he carries a sword), the bugle-major of an infantry regiment, most probably the 6th Guard Dorobantzes Regiment “Mihai Viteazul”. I saw several pictures of the late 1930s, in which the drum-major of this unit had an impressive beard.
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21 inf |
Posted: April 30, 2008 03:52 pm
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sid guttridge |
Posted: May 07, 2008 09:35 am
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 862 Member No.: 591 Joined: May 19, 2005 |
Hi Guys,
The British Army hasn't allowed beards since the 19th Century - with one exception. If my memory serves me correctly, only two pioneer sergeants in each regiment are allowed to wear beards. Perhaps this man (I cannot see the photo) is a pioneer carrying an axe? Sid. |
C-2 |
Posted: May 07, 2008 11:40 am
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
Sid,what about auxiliary troops.Ex indian troops?
I saw many photos of Siks with beards. |
New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: May 07, 2008 11:52 am
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Hallo C - 2,
Indian Troops, I believe would come under the classification of Commonwealth & Dominian Troops and not British Army per se. Kevin in Deva. |
C-2 |
Posted: May 09, 2008 11:34 am
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General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003 |
"They" wore british uniforms....
Funny to hear that. |
New Connaught Ranger |
Posted: May 09, 2008 12:48 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Hallo C-2
They all swore allegiance to the British Crown, followed the basic Rules in the Kings or Queens Military Regulations, and had their own traditions and music, and even though they wore "British" uniforms, they were distinctly different in cut and style with their own hat / cap badges and buttons. Many of the Indian Regiments had British Officers, the senior NCO ranks being British but the lower NCO and Privates being Natives. The Gurkha's from Nepal never learned English, all orders were in their native tounge and the British officer had to prove he was worthy to command them. As they were not inclined to follow somebody who they did not respect. These Indian Commonwealth Regiments were a great source of manpower for the British, many being transfered en-mass via the Suez canal to fight in France and Flanders in WW1. Kevin in Deva. |
sid guttridge |
Posted: May 09, 2008 04:24 pm
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Locotenent colonel Group: Members Posts: 862 Member No.: 591 Joined: May 19, 2005 |
Hi C-2,
NCR is right. The Indian Army had a different military establishment to the British Army. The British Army owed its alleigance to the monarch as King or Queen, whereas the Indian Army owed its alleigance to the Emperor or Empress of India, the title the British monarch held in his or her Indian domains. Indian Army regiments followed many native traditions, which is why various forms of turban and facial hair, such as beards, were worn. I think adult Sikh men have to wear a full beard for religious reasons. It was therefore necessary to allow them to wear beards if the British wanted to recruit them. Cheers, Sid. |