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Ferdinand
Posted: May 24, 2008 09:16 pm
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one question: is the info bellow the photo correct?

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Posted: May 24, 2008 10:30 pm
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The "caciula" looks diferent then the romanian one.
Otherwise it doesn;'t look like the one wear by the Kos.
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Posted: May 25, 2008 06:33 am
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No doubt, the soldiers are romanian for sure.

Probably the photo was taken in winter 1942-43 as they still wear leather leggings instead of puttees. The woolen hat (“Caciula”) was of different shapes and was carried (conical or cylindrical) according the personal taste of the soldier, as he used to carry in his home village. Cossacks’ “papasha” had a different aspect and was pressed on the upper side.

Soldiers carry Romanian ammo pouches and “ZB” bayonets and shovels on the left hip.

I wonder if the Stug is Romanian? It seems to have a tricolour cockade on the armour side though the Romanian identification symbol on the Eastern Front was the Michael Cross.
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Posted: May 25, 2008 08:08 am
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QUOTE (Kepi @ May 25, 2008 12:33 pm)
I wonder if the Stug is Romanian? It seems to have a tricolour cockade on the armour side...

To me it looks like a letter C.

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Posted: May 25, 2008 10:50 am
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If I am not mistaking, this type of woolen hat went out of service after the 1942-43 campaign, so the StuG III can't be Romanian. Probably Romanian soldiers posing near a German StuG.
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Posted: May 25, 2008 07:41 pm
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It might be romanian Stug during the turn of 44-45.
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Posted: May 26, 2008 06:29 am
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thank you all for answers.

i'm not familiar with romanian uniforms, but i thought that it looks very similar to this one....
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the picture with the stug apear in in "Encyclopedia of Weapons of ww2".
the book is "so well" made that at the chapter for german vehicles the "horch"( important german army car) does not appear. dry.gif

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Posted: May 26, 2008 08:52 am
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QUOTE (seeker @ May 26, 2008 12:29 pm)
the picture with the stug apear in in "Encyclopedia of Weapons of ww2".

And what is the source of the last photo (with the Rumanian guard)?

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Posted: May 26, 2008 11:49 am
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.....Armata Romana 1941-1945......
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Posted: May 26, 2008 03:13 pm
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QUOTE (seeker @ May 26, 2008 06:29 am)


"Encyclopedia of Weapons of ww2".

the book is "so well" made that at the chapter for german vehicles the "horch"( important german army car) does not appear. dry.gif

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Possibly its because the Horch was a car and not a weapon??

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Posted: May 26, 2008 07:32 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ May 26, 2008 08:52 am)

And what is the source of the last photo (with the Rumanian guard)?

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Posted: May 26, 2008 07:44 pm
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QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ May 26, 2008 03:13 pm)

Possibly its because the Horch was a car and not a weapon??

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it wasn't a car, it was a flak mobile unit part. wink.gif

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as for the encyclopedia....it has 53 chapters, and only 6 of them are about weapons(mp40, maxim, mgs, garands....etc).

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Posted: May 27, 2008 05:22 am
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Hallo seeker biggrin.gif

I have never seen such a combination of a Flack 20cm or Flack 30cm cannon slapped on top of what was basically a big car, have you any period photographs of this in reality?

It would make a very unstable gun platform as every time the weapon was fired it would bounce the cars suspension and not be a great help to accuracy. laugh.gif

Also there would have had to have been serious bracing to hold the car and gun together, even when traveling on normal roads I would imagine it has a high center of gravity. It would have been hard to take corners without the vehicle tipping over, even more so in the desert which had very steep sand dunes.

From the model depiction it appears to have no way to stabilize the gun it for firing.

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Posted: May 27, 2008 07:01 am
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QUOTE (New Connaught Ranger @ May 27, 2008 05:22 am)
It would make a very unstable gun platform as every time the weapon was fired it would bounce the cars suspension and not be a great help to accuracy. laugh.gif

Also there would have had to have been serious bracing to hold the car and gun together, even when traveling on normal roads I would imagine it has a high center of gravity. It would have been hard to take corners without the vehicle tipping over, even more so in the desert which had very steep sand dunes.


hard to find pictures with horch, and i mean period time pics.

but i have in my collection picture with us Dodge w51, wich was the us response to horch, but not so good as the steyr-horch rolleyes.gif

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us did not only put a machine gun , big caliber, they mounted also a anti-tank gun.
cd with ww2 pictures

gruss!
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Posted: May 27, 2008 07:14 am
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Hmmm,

I will search my DAK archive. Perhaps some mods used by the Sonderverband 287/288 are complying to what has been said here.

I will get back to the topic soon.

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