What fighter plane do you think Romania should use?

The updated Grippen is around
http://www.realitatea.net/183276_Gripen-a-...vanatoare.html#

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I think we can be sure that this is what the air force will get in the end.

4.5 billion for 24 new and 24 refurbished F16 Fighters???
At this price we could buy 48 new european fighters.

On "History Channel", in the series "Dogfights" - episode "Dogfights of the future", in imaginary dogfights taking place in 2015, 2027 etc. the F-22 Raptor, taking advantage of its stealth technology, easily detroyes the latest models of MIG and Mirage available TODAY.

Something missed by the authors of the episode: until 2015 the Russians or the French may develop something as good as the F-22 Raptor. By 2027 the F-22 Raptor may become obsolete itself.
The Serbs sent to Russia the F-117 they shot down in 1999, so the Russians could look to the materials used in "stealth technology".

This post has been edited by Florin on May 21, 2008 03:10 am

... Or we can use these money where is the best use for them: education, health care, environment protection, preservation of our historic heritage.



This post has been edited by Florin on May 21, 2008 02:22 am

Yeah? So, this will be the biggest "tzeapa"? A new reccord?

Iama

Yeah? So, this will be the biggest "tzeapa"? A new reccord?

Iama

The obvious winners:

... And the not-so-obvious winners: 1 percent sale commission will result in 45 million USD in Romanian private pockets. 2 percent sale commission will result in 90 million USD in Romanian private pockets.

And, of course, the paid trips...

As I wrote in another post, we should ask to build some parts / components in Romania. What components? Those we are able to make, not more. Of course, I may not be aware about what was left of the Romanian industry.

This post has been edited by Florin on May 21, 2008 12:01 pm

F16 is a very good and very wise choice. It is a tried and tested aircraft much preffered by many air forces (even by those air forces that have the money and possibility to buy the other "coolest" aircraft). It has a very good and solid record and it is up to date technologically.
Radu

It is a good plane, indeed - no need to argue about this.
My question is: is this the best use of 4,500,000,000 dollars from the Romanian budget?

Florin,
So lets abandon NATO and spend all the money on " mici" and beer.And who needs an army anyway?As for roads,education etc we are not even able to spent European Comunity funds.As for RoAF why not put into production IAR 80 or even cheaper, Potez xxv
Just joking,no offence!
Dan

I can easily imagine that comnparatively large amounts were spent on "improving" and "maintaining" the Lancer (fitting a Dacia 1100 with "go faster" stripes, a CD hanging from the rearview mirror, alloy wheels and wide tyres, leather seats, LED lights and bigger speakers )
Military equipment may be expensive but it is like, let's say, "insurance in case of earthquakes" - it may seem excessive and pointless when nothing happens but a great relief when the need arises. The question is really "What price can one place on the country's security?"

"Commissions" were mentioned above. Commissions are a NORMAL thing in business and has been so since prehistory everywhere in the world. Everything around us involves some kind of commission, from milk and bread to your apartment or car - someone always makes a buck for intermediating a deal, even the companies that have the name "direct" in the title and claim to cut out the "middle man" (they are in fact the "middle man" ). It's a fact of life, accept it.

Radu

A commison is not something that one gets simply because one has blue eyes,it involves work or knolege or conections.And its perfectly legal.Unfortunately in our country its equaled with coruption.

Shouldn't they take 48 new ones? Or only 30, but new? What's with this half like this - half like that choice?

http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/iss...Eurofighter.htm

We could buy better and new Eurofighters at half the price and with offset, which means the money will be invested back in our economy.

Gripen would be even cheaper. And with offset too.

Sadly, my worst fears have become reality. We are going to be stuck with overpriced and obsolete american stuff.

This post has been edited by SiG on May 22, 2008 05:10 am