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Posted: February 10, 2005 02:01 pm
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Thus the future is the portable anti-aircraft and anti-missile rocket, light enough to be carried by one person, but with a range long enough to reach 6-7 km altitude. Even better, such portable rocket should be useful against ground vehicles and aerial targets in the same time.


True, Romania should focus more on acquiring a lot of anti-tank and anti-aircraft man portable missiles. They could present a better deterrent than a nuclear weapon! No neighbour would accept the costs and uncertainty of attacking a country than can deploy thousands of well trained mobile guerilla teams armed with powerful AT and AA missiles, besides the "conventional" army units.

Moreover, Romania should focus on R&D in the UAV domain. The goal would be to have a fleet of UAVs capable of providing short range air support.
Therefore Romania should try to be a Niche power, in unconventional or innovative ways, not compete in conventional materiel.

I consider the acquiring of tanks and airplanes useless. It costs a lot and consider that:

1. If facing a superpower it owuldnt be worth much anyways.
2. If facing an insurgency, their success is doubtful.
3. If facing a powerful neighbour with large conventional forces they'll have to stay on the defensive. (like Ukraine).

But I fear that politicians are far too blind and incompetent to give a damn. They plan their military budget not on contingencies or foreign capabilities but on CURRENT foreign affairs/policy.

For example they now over-state the need to reduce the Army to deployable units in "peace-keeping" and "coalition-of-the willing" zones... Shortsighted creeps!!! mad.gif


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Posted: February 15, 2005 05:29 am
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What Romania needs most is a first-rate fighter, the SAAB JAS-39 Gripen is my opinion the best chioce. I'am going to keep saying until those beautiful Romanian roundels adorn a fleet of JAS-39's. In todays world Air Superiority is the key to the battlefield.

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Posted: February 16, 2005 03:00 pm
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I believe the better equipment for our army will be ICBM with termo-nuclear loads.With this,we dont need NATO,and nobody threat us in any way cool.gif
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Posted: February 16, 2005 04:01 pm
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I believe the better equipment for our army will be ICBM with termo-nuclear loads.With this,we dont need NATO,and nobody threat us in any way cool.gif

Udar,

ICBM are usless in a convential war, how would that work? what would Romania do nuke someone anytime we fight?. How would that work for "peace keeping missions"? In todays world you need a well trained, modern and efficient armed forces, that is capable of waging both convential and unconvential warfare.

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Posted: February 16, 2005 04:52 pm
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Developping nuclear weapons is one of the insane ideas Ceausescu did not fortunately have time to fulfill and I find it strange that someone in Romania would even consider that possibility.
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Posted: February 17, 2005 03:42 pm
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For the first,if we will have that ICBM,or short and medium range missiles,with nuclear loads,i dont see many countries who want to fight with us,conventional or not.And about that "peace keeping missions",i think is a decalification for an army,have almost nothing to do with real fight,in conventional or unconvential warfare.I believe is better to send security(gendarms) troops for this job,and trainning the army for real job,the war,in all he`s ranks and ways.And i think is not such"insane"ideas to want all to protect your country.Under such nuclear"umbrella"protection,we will be able to develope too conventional strong army forces,in time,and not stay to others mercy(like in most our recent,and not too recent history).I believe is time to renounce to our "beginng"political style,on knees,and try to not disaper,slowly,in to a mass of clientelar,unimportant states,who probably will disaper,soon or later, as independent nations,not only political,but probably cultural too.
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Posted: February 17, 2005 04:49 pm
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No offense, but you seem to be living some 25 years in the past. There is no way Romania could develop nuclear weaponsin its current situation without useless and insane sacrifices. I personally prefer to try to live better as part of a strong multinational organization, than to eat reeds and frogs, but to boast with the Romanian nuclear arsenal.

Where would you test these weapons, without the radiation affecting the country? As far as I know Romania doesn't have a Mojave desert. This kind of thinking belongs to the past. Romania isn't big enough to become a world power and I find it very strange that some have such dreams. International respect does not come only with nuclear weapons (how much respect does North Korea have?), but mostly with proving seriousness and responsibility in international relations. That is what Romania should do, not WMD.
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Posted: February 17, 2005 05:26 pm
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I am not offense,but it seems you think like Titulescu(the best foreign minister we haved in our history)in previous time of WW 2.He put he`s hopes in Nations League(the old model from actual UN)and in our big and strong allies,UK and France,winners in WW 1.Who think in that time that another world war is on the road?Nobody(or mabe couple isolated minds,in Germany,or in other parts of world).But this new war comes.And what hapened with our alliances and with international law and relations sistem?Was crashed.Nobody help us,couple of our teritories was lost,and our army,with outdated weapons and tactics,was not able to defend the country teritory.And North Koreea is not only example(mabe dont have much political international respect,but sure have a military one),look to Pakistan,who is able to resist against much larger India,and nobody ask him about human rights,for example,even the situation there is not far from Irak or Afghanistan.Ofcourse,i dont think that Romania must be a world power,who want to conquer the world,but to be a respected one,who not be dependent by others.About testing nuclear weapons(entire weapons,not detonation sistem alone,or other parts),nobody do this now.Exist for this computer programs(France,US,even Russia do this).And Israel dont test any nuclear weapons,even if have an important arsenal(unofficial,ofcourse).Sorry if some of my ideas is strange,but is just a diferent opinion.
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Posted: February 18, 2005 11:15 am
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in my opinion the most important thing that romanian military needs right now are trained , professional officers, not the bunch of fat manele listening redneck bastards which make up most of the contemporary military in romania....
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Posted: February 18, 2005 01:18 pm
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Indrid, please refrain from using such insulting generalizations and deragatory terms.

As for the need for well trained professional personnel, I would add that the need for good NCOs is much more accute.
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