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Posted: October 18, 2008 06:46 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Hallo Gents,
I am currently reading "LUCKY FORWARD, The history of General George Patton's Third U.S. Army." by Colonel Robert S. Allen. In the chapter HOT OIL, on page 90-91 is the following:- Several hundred thousand troops, under Lieutenant General Alexander M. Patch, landed southwest of Cannes and began a rapid advance up the Rhone Valley against the weak German 19(th) Army. This Army had been so badly depleted by demands from Normandy that it consisted of only seven divisions, made up largely of low-grade German troops, Poles, Rumanians, and other foreign elements. . . . . Two questions: 1, would these be members of Rumanian Volksdeutsche in Germany Army units 2, did any Romanian units actually serve in France? The book was printed in 1965 originally printed in 1947. Any information welcome Kevin in Deva. |
Dénes |
Posted: October 18, 2008 07:44 pm
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Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003 |
I think this is yet again the case of mistaking citizenship with nationality/ethnicity - an error often committed by many historians.
These were most probably Volksdeutsche men from Rumania enrolled into the Wehrmacht. Gen. Dénes P.S. This thread's title is also misleading. Even if these men were Rumanian ethnics, in the very moment they took the German unifom on they were not Rumanian, but German soldiers. |
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Posted: October 18, 2008 07:53 pm
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 941 Member No.: 770 Joined: January 03, 2006 |
Hallo Denes,
thanks for your reply, my words in the title reflect my uncertainty on how to word the thread. Please suggest a more apt title and hopefully one of the Moderators can change it to that. I agree with the remarks pertaining to historians, seeing as how this book was written in 1947 could be one of the reasons for the mistake, circa two years post WW2, and a lot of the finer details with regards the Rumanian Volksdeutsche I would imagine very little was really known about them, especially to an American military historian / writer of that period. Kevin in Deva. |
petru32 |
Posted: December 18, 2008 12:04 am
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Soldat Group: Members Posts: 11 Member No.: 2325 Joined: December 04, 2008 |
I read some years ago in History Magazine the story of some Romanian nationals from occupied Transilvania which were conscripted in Hungarian work battalions and in the autumn of 1944 were spilled in to German Army ranks and according to the story they saw action in Ardens offensive (as far as I remember they saw action in mountain troops)
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cainele_franctiror |
Posted: December 18, 2008 06:00 am
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Sublocotenent Group: Members Posts: 449 Member No.: 334 Joined: September 01, 2004 |
I red about some Romanians in the French Resistence... well, I hope Wehrmacht did not enlist them for the Battle of Normandy
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